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Soundwave said:
Neodegenerate said:

It is much more than that one line.  It is your refusal to look at anything aside from the XB1S success as a reason why PS would be down.  It is your refusal to look at the previous year as part of the reason why something might be down or up.  It is your hard-nosed stance that me saying things like this is discounting the XB1S's success as opposed to what it actually is: entering further evidence and reason into the discussion.

So what? I'm not obligated to agree with you on every point. 

I feel XBox One S is indeed the no.1 reason the PS4 is down YoY, MS is far, far more competetive this year. In fact I'll go further and say it's borderline shocking the XBox One is even competetive this year, this should have been a *rout* for Sony, we had heard for months that XBox was going to get destroyed in November/December by many people. 

If you don't agree with MS having any impact on Sony sales, fine, but you don't ge to tell people that they can only think one way. I'm not "refusing" anything, I just don't agree with your point.

And this right here is what I am talking about.  You are assuming because I said that Sony's year last year plays into their being down YoY this year that I don't agree with MS having any impact on their sales.

Sales aren't that black and white.  You can't have a logical discussion if the only terms you understand in it are yes and no.  You can say I am trying to tell you how to think, but that is wrong.  What I am trying to do is help you understand that this world is not binary code.  The sales of the consoles is not solely two items playing tug of war.

Since you refuse to see that though, I will simply bid you good day.