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Neodegenerate said:
Soundwave said:

With respect, you guys are cherry picking what I'm saying and taking it out of context.

This was the line that apparently got some people upset:

Sounds like they are down year over year though, whereas MS is up year over year for December. That means they closed the gap. 

I'm speaking about the gap they had between them last December, MS is trending up, Sony is trending down. The context I was talking about is rather clear there by the preceeding sentence. I never once said MS had closed the gap in overall LTD sales, but the fact that they are far more competetive.

"Gap" is apparently a loaded term. Go figure. 

It is much more than that one line.  It is your refusal to look at anything aside from the XB1S success as a reason why PS would be down.  It is your refusal to look at the previous year as part of the reason why something might be down or up.  It is your hard-nosed stance that me saying things like this is discounting the XB1S's success as opposed to what it actually is: entering further evidence and reason into the discussion.

So what? I'm not obligated to agree with you on every point. 

I feel XBox One S is indeed the no.1 reason the PS4 is down YoY, MS is far, far more competetive this year. In fact I'll go further and say it's borderline shocking the XBox One is even competetive this holiday, this should have been a *rout* for Sony, we had heard for months that XBox was going to get destroyed in November/December because of the Pro + Slim one-two punch. 

If you don't agree with MS having any impact on Sony sales, fine, but you don't ge to tell people that they can only think one way especially when you are not presenting any hard evidence either. As such we are free to have opinions on why MS is up this December and Sony is down. I'm not "refusing" anything, I just don't agree with your point.