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Neodegenerate said:
Soundwave said:

It's not a popular opinion around here to give MS credit for anything, if they hold their own then it's also apparently "well Sony wasn't even trying". Yeah gimme a break. 

I agree with the fact that they are more competitive.  Hell, I even want them to be.  The closer they can make things ANYWHERE the better it is for us as consumers.  However, the attempt at spin you had going on is a bit much.  Even you have to see that.  It is equally as bad as the "Sony isn't trying" tripe that is coming from others.

What spin?

MS has plenty of reason to be proud of what they've accomplished this year.

Sony has TWO models. Let me retierate that since it gets glossed over. TWO models. Going against a ONE model system they were previously dominating. 

If Sony didn't have PS4 Pro, even though it didn't appear to help that much, they probably would have lost this holiday season period.