Nikkei rumor: Nintendo Switch to cost 25000 yen ( probably 250$/250€)

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Wyrdness said:

Captain_Yuri said:

Or you know, it is the form factor they are used to seeing/having... Most consoles, even in the past decade have not had the form factor of a standard tower PC. My argument is about public perception of the form factor which is the part that you are ignoring. If the first thing most people thought about was a mini-PC form-factor when someone mentions a PC, then the PC vs consoles would make sense. But they don't hence why it is one of the main reasons why PCs won't replace consoles and just saying because there is a mini-PC form factor means that PCs should be able to replace consoles doesn't make sense due to how different the form factor is for a mini-PC compared to a standard PC. But the Switch on the otherhand has the form factor of a tablet.

Or they bought those devices cause they had a bundle/pricecut that went into my impluse buy range or the purchasers bought it regardless of its price since they thought the value was good enough...

But that doesn't mean it couldn't have stayed at a higher number than the gba era in the post DS/PSP era. One of the main reasons it didn't is because of smartphones being a thing. The argument of emulation being the main selling factor of PSP and taking that away means its normal to have the Vita sell 15 million is nothing more than speculation. The casuals for the most part went to smartphones after the PSP/DS and they are continuing to do so hence the sales of the Vita being so low. I doubt 60+ million people bought a PSP just for piracy. 

Again your argument holds no ground because for the hundreth time you are aruging perception of the form factor so under your very own argument a mini-pc would be percieved as a console, the's no one rule for one here either you stick to this logic or admit its flaw, form facotr doesn't define how something is seen. Many devices utilize the form factors of other devices for a number of reasons and the general public knows this.

 

Your argument is that the price point is not in impulse range not about bundles again moving goal posts, PSP and Wii didn't have price cuts early on so you must be thinking of something else there.

It's going to finish at a higher number than the GBA era, it'd have pass it by the end of this year, PSP's emulation is not speculation the facts speak for themself. PSP had dreadful software sales for its library, literally it was like no one was buying games for it which is why third parties ditched it and all portable focus went to the DS, this was because almost anyone who had it used homebrew, the were tonnes of ebay listings selling homebrew discs with roms and PSP games and the problem became rampant. This is why Vita went with a propriety memory storage, even before Vita Sony tried introducing a PSP model that dropped mem sticks but it bombed hard, Sony fixed the problem but the problem was what sold the PSP in the west.

The casuals are still here always have been always will be how are you even arguing if you can't tell the difference between a casual, a non gamer and a new gamer, casuals are just gamers who don't buy games as often but they'll snap up the Fifas and the Marios, non gamers and new gamers were the people who caused the huge sales. Non gamers are the ones who left while some new gamers are around and casuals most likely have a 3DS

When people thinks about buying a PC, they know what form factor to expect. I havn't denied at all that mini-PCs can't look like consoles but the reason they havn't replaced consoles is because of what a traditional PC looks like.  When people think about getting a console, they don't even think about getting a mini-PC due to the form factor of traditional PCs because the form-factor of mini-PCs and traditional PCs are so different. If they physically go and see a mini-PC, then they can say that it looks like a console but until they see the mini-PC for themselves, the form-factor of traditional PCs will still be in their mind because that has already been established. But since Switch is such a new product and tablets have already been established for a long time, they will view the Switch as a tablet.

I think you need to chill with the term of "moving goal posts" and actually try to read what I am saying before stating it as such. The bundles were just an example of a reason as to why it could sell without being in my impluse buy price range. My argument as always been that impluse buy pricing helps the consumer decide on buying certain things more easily. That doesn't mean that being within the impluse buy price range will automatically sell consoles and being greater than it won't sell consoles which I have also said. There could be a number of reasons why a device can sell well even if they are above my impluse buy range and none of them make my range any less valid. Also, there have always been black friday and etc deals which always go under the msrp. Also according to wiki, the PSP launched in March of 2005 for $250. And then the core pack that costed $199 launched in March 2006. So it didn't take that long to get a price cut if wiki is to be believed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Portable

Sounds like Speculation to me. I mean the psp's software sales was like 298 million which is not bad at all for a system without games like Pokemon. The GBA's software sales was like 377 million and that is with software pushers like Pokemon.

Maybe you should calm down dude. Just because our definition of what a casual gamer is different doesn't mean I can't argue. The Casual gamers regardless are heading towards mobile as well. Obviously they all aren't going to go at once but slowly. Because if they weren't, the sales of the Vita wouldn't be so low and they shouldn't be so low due to the reasons I have already explained. Sure many are still here but that doesn't mean they aren't going to mobile...

Anyway, maybe instead of going around in circles, I think its time to move on.