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Nem on 07 January 2017
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aLkaLiNE said:
Nem said:
I see we are still entertaining the possibility that this is a sucess. I don't mind waiting another year for it to sink in.

Beeing sold out doesn't mean that there is alot of unmet demand. Much like what Nintendo often does with their amiibo and special editions. If there were lots of pending pre-orders, retailers would've placed bigger orders and Sony would've produced more.

I don't see the buzz of unmet demand that happened with the PS4 and it's big numbers. People aren't talking about how awesome this is all over the internet or how you must have this. Sony is already telling us how they want to incorporate this in more mediums to increase demand. But hey... i bet i get flamed like usual for saying these obvious things that end up beeing true.

Why would Sony want to artificially create demand by intentionally low balling PSVR shipments when a) each VR unit sold will be sure to move X amount of software which generates more profit/revenue for Sony and b) they have a need to create as big a install base as quickly as economically possible to show developers that there is money to be made? In the case of Amiibo Nintendo only generates income once off the sale of each Amiibo. Sony generates revenue with each VR unit sold, probably for a profit, and then they also sell software off the back of that which generates even more revenue/profit. I don't think it makes sense for any hardware platform to intentionally under ship, and I can't say that I remember the last time a gaming company did that. Did Sony intentionally under ship Ps4? Did Nintendo intentionally under ship the Wii? What about the PS2? It makes absolutely no sense to assume that they would want to actively constrain the headset.

 

Sony has mentioned previously that supply is being constrained by how fast they've been able to produce OLED screens. They said that they were experiencing better than anticipated sales and that capacity would be further expanded at the end of 2016. There are numerous analysts saying that PSVR has sold roughly equivalent to the Vive and Rift.... Combined. In half the time. We know that the headset is constantly out of stock online, which isn't anecdotal (check yourself, look on Amazon, eBay, check your local retailers) (my anecdotal experience at GameStop and bestbuy tells me that the units are selling as fast as they're coming since they've been sold out every time). Positive buzz/reception is there just about anywhere you see consumer reviews. Because you are oblivious to it doesn't change the fact. PSVR holds a 4.5 rating on Amazon by confirmed buyers, i.e. Not paid reviewers.

So by what metric is PSVR a failure? What data do you have to back it up? Everything we have suggests that they're selling what they can make.

I think you'll notice the ammounts of undershipping are very different and the costumer reception is also very different. I don't think Sony undershipped much. But had they had bigger demand they would've placed bigger orders to their suppliers. I think the demand simply isnt there and they are trying to talk their way out of this one before it becomes apparant that it isn't the sucess they would have us believe.

I also totally believe it sold more than the other VR sets. But, so did the Vita.

The thing is... for this to be sucessful it has to achieve mass market. I don't think it has a chance in hell to achieve that. Actually do you know of any peripheral with a sucess story in the games market?