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JWeinCom on 05 January 2017
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Oneeee-Chan!!! said:
JWeinCom said:

Kinect released in early november and pushed XBox 360 sales up by 33% that year.  If it was going to be a major seller, we should have seen some effect this year.  


No, not really.  We know less about the Scorpio and how it will perform or be marketed.  Depending on how the Scorpio is, it may be a better upgrade choice for the expanding 4K market.  There is the potential for Hololens in 2017.  Also, the XBox One install base is about half the PS4's, which means more potential customers.

Most importantly though, XBox doesn't have to sell nearly as much to be up YOY.  It will only have to sell about 10 million or so to accomplish that, and Sony will have to nearly double it.  Microsoft just has to eat away a bit at Sony's marketshare, while Sony really has to expand their market.  

All that being said, I think that XBox will be down YOY, but it has more of a chance to be up.

So you admited XB1 down YoY.  

And  I'm not interested in  yourquibbling and word play jokes . 

Admitted?  I gotta say I'm kind of confused.  I didn't say anything about whether XBox One sales would be up or down in the first place, yet you're acting as though I'm "admitting" to something.  And I don't even understand what it meanst to "admit XB1 down YOY".  Did I have some inside knowledge from the future that I was hiding?  

I'm also not sure what word play jokes you saw.  O_o... 

bluedawgs said:
JWeinCom said:

Kinect released in early november and pushed XBox 360 sales up by 33% that year.  If it was going to be a major seller, we should have seen some effect this year.  

 

 

dude psvr is supply constrained currently, it sells for at the very least $400, 500 or 600 if you dont have the camera and if you want the move contollers (i paid 630 bucks for my psvr bundle) and it has only sold around 700k to a million i'd guess, so i really don't think kinect is the same as psvr at all

The PSVR was fairly available for most of october (I know I looked) and sales were basically flat for PS4 week over week and year over year.  It could be selling more with better supply, but it's not like a PS2/Wii/NES Classic situation where there are tons of people desperately waiting.

It's clearly not a system seller like Kinect, which begs the question of why the PS4 will be up big YOY.  PSVR and Pro both seem like relatively niche products, and the price was already dropped effectively 50 dollars this holiday season.  Another pricecut will help somewhat, if Sony does one, but it isn't going to be that much bigger.

So, the games lineup will have to be enough not only to overcome the natural decline in sales, but also push out a few million more units.  If you're predicting sales of about 20 million, the games have to basically be 4-5 million hardware sales better than last year's, and they really aren't.