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DrDoomz said:
Soundwave said:

I think SA would like to have Sharia law in their neck of the woods, not even so much because I think the Saudi rulers even believe any of that shit, it's just a good way to keep the religious nutters in check. The Saudi rich wigs, they're partying it up in nightclubs and driving Lambos, they don't give a poop about Sharia. 

There's no realistic way anyone with a lick of common sense could think that Sharia could become some global thing ... I mean you can't even play music ... like lol, forget ideological warfare, that would just get laughed out of the majority of the world, I'd bet even a majority of Muslims deep down think it's a load of bollocks. 

I actually don't think having two forces is beneficial. The Cold War was far more dangerous than the worst threats we face today, a bunch of cave dwellers with a standing army smaller than the nation of Ethophia driving around in used Toyota trucks with no heavy infantry, like 5 tanks, no air force, no anti-air weapons, is laughable compared to things like the Cuban Missle Crisis where the world literally probably came within 30-40 minutes of a cataclysmic war that probably would mean that none of us who are typing on this forum would even probably be alive, because the course of human history would be so dramatically altered that none of our parents likely meet in the same way (and many of them probably would be dead in the ensuing conflicts). 

Like the US or not, but the 90s and even the 2000s IMO were a lot safer. Having two equal superpowers jockeying for position inevitably is going to lead to a war that's going to leave hundreds of millions dead (or one of two has to collapse upon itself). We're just too stupid as a species to avoid it. Maybe in 200-300 years we'll grow out of it. 

Yet SA is seen as one of the biggest financiers of Islamic terrorism in the world. So it looks like they spend their money on more than nightclubs and Lambos.

So you're saying it is impossible for Muslims to exploit immigration in order to flood into small first world countries with declining native birth rates and dominate via population growth?

I disagree. I find your cold war analogy to be out of touch with our current reality. We are in the information age. Annihilation via war between the US and Russia is not the reality we live in these days. This isn't the 60s or 70s where ppl in the 2 largest superpowers were paranoid, closed off and xenophobic (with hair triggers on the nuke button). Wars are fought via the economy and via influence in the world stage. Russia closing in will not guarantee another Cold War or a nuclear standoff. There are too many lines of communication/information for this to happen and there is no benefit to it for them to even hint at world war (a war that they know will have no winners) if they want their worldwide influence to grow. Unless, that is, the US instigates it to protect its position (but I doubt that, too). But the US is too powerful right now. It is never going to happen anytime soon unless something drastic happens.

I'm saying the realistic notion of Sharia law being something that's globally feasible even is somewhat laughable. Are you even allowed to take shit under Sharia law? It's a laughably untendable, unworkable philosophy, the Saudi rulers push it because they want to keep clerics on their side, you can't have them preaching to overthrow the main government now can you? Religion is the opiate of the masses anyway, a religious population is always easier to control and manipulate so what motivation is there for an undemocratic monarchy to want to lose one of the trump cards? Obviously none. 

Two countries that about "evenly" matched is not good, I just don't believe in human naure that much, sorry. We're idiots. Give us two sides that are somewhat evenly matched and the only thing that's going to happen is evenually we'll find a way to get into a fight. Cause we're morons. Honestly speaking most human beings are fucking stupid. The species is pushed forward largely by a few exceptional people popping up and working incredibly hard and the rest of civilization then benefits tremendously from that.