potato_hamster said:
zorg1000 said:
The other companies have increased? I'm pretty positive Xbox One is going to come nowhere close to 360 sales, PS4+Vita is going to fall short of PS3+PSP & PS2. Where is this increase that you're talking about?
Like I said earlier you can split up the data basically anyway you want, generation vs generation or every 5 years since they began the April-March fiscal year or total annual shipments. They all come to the same conclusion, that Nintendo's overall hardware business is not in a massive decline (which was your original argument) unless you compare it to Wii/DS (which you claimed was a fluke).
Overall Nintendo has remained relatively stable over the last 25 years with a few expections.
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See, you just take an interpretation of what I say, make a nice little straw man out of it, and then try your best to light it on fire. Adorable.
I was making a point that the sales of the Xbox and Playstation home consoles is substantantially higher than the likes of Sega, Atari, etc. Aka, the sales of their competition has increased while Nintendo's sales have decreased over the years, aka, Nintendo has much more susbtantial competition now than they ever have, and the sales show it The home console market has grown in the last couple decades overall, yet Nintendo's piece of that pie just keeps getting smaller and smaller. As you've stated many many many times, this has been somewhat buoyed by Nintendo's handheld performance, but even that train appears to be running out of track.
Hilariously though, if you want to look at a stable platform over the past 20+ years, that title easily goes to Sony's home consoles. With few exceptions, they have consistently sold at least 18 million. In fact, between FY97 and FY07, the only year they sold less than 18 million home consoles was FY05 at 16.2M. Sure FY08 to FY11 they only averaged between 12 and 16 million, but since FY12 they've been back to 18+ million. If you're not keeping track, that means that in 20 years, Sony's home consoles have sold at least 18 million 75% of the time. That's actual consistency. now before you try and make a mountain out of that 4 year period of less than stellar sales, let me remind you for a little perspective - Nintendo would be delighted if the Switch sold a 12 million average over the next 4 years. That alone should tell you all you need to know about the decline of Nintendo over the years.
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Thats not a straw man, you said Nintendo being down 20-25% is a massive decline, that means that the Xbox & Playstation ecosystems are very likely to be suffering massive declines as well. Either the Nintendo decline isnt as significant as you are making it out to be or the entire dedicated gaming market is in massive decline. Its one or the other, it cant be both.
Yep Playstation home consoles have been pretty stable with the exception of PS3, not gonna deny that.
3DS averaged over 12 million per year in its first 4 years on the market, its not some unfathomable idea that Switch could do the same.
