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Soundwave on 04 January 2017
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Rab said:
Soundwave said:

There are no good guys. There is only power and less power. Unfortunately that's how the world works when it comes to this stuff. The best one can hope for is who ever is at the top of the heap of that power structure isn't too much of an asshole. 

The US, Russia, or China are really the only three legitimate players that can be "on top" so to speak. I don't see the other two options as being more desirable. 

Fair enough, I’m Australian so my natural inclination is towards the US, but the US has done a lot of bad in the World, so I find it hard to reconcile with any propaganda that only highlights China's and Russia's ills

I guess for a most of us balanced fact based reporting would be nice for a change  

I think what is different and extraordinary about this situation is generally speaking the "major players" (of which there are usually only 2-4 at a time) don't ever dare to interfere *directly* in each other's political process. 

That's really dicey, like I don't think the US is messing with China's elections. Yes, big, powerful countries bully little smaller countries for their self interest, yes politicians who are greedy can be bought ... none of that is new. But a major power nakedly interfering into the election process of another major power ... that is a game changer. 

This is in a way an extremely dangerous escalation.