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Soundwave on 04 January 2017
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DrDoomz said:
Soundwave said:

The Saudis, as ass backwards as some of their domestic policy might be, don't really have any active interest in destablizing the United States as whole.

The Russians do. That to begin with is a fairly large difference. 

They have written textbooks that state they want the United States to collapse upon itself, UK to alienate itself from Europe, and wish to see the "Finlandization" of Europe, if you're not familiar with that term is a Cold War term when Russia didn't directly invade Finland but basically had so much influence over Finland that it was a puppet state in effect. 

Does it matter what a foreign government's interests are? Influence is influence. They tend to be selfish and they are seldom if ever in the interests of the parties being influenced. Let's not split hairs here.

Again, destablization of governments you don't like is practically US MO. You practically own the rights to it. Also, I doubt Russia would wants to completely destabilize the US as the world's economy is so tied to the it. Maybe in the long-long term. Just because they might want something, doesn't mean they think it's a good idea.

Uh yes ... it does matter what a government's interests are? Like how does it not? 

There's a difference between being upset at a guy who's motives are to date your sister and take her out to the movies versus a guy who's planning to get your sister drunk and rape her. 

And yes the US has interfered globally, but do you think that Russian-centric world order would be better in the long run?