FBI Released Proof of Russian DNC Hacking - US expels 35 Russian diplomats & Sanctioned Two Compounds

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DrDoomz said:

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So Russia should be involved in every US election from now on? They get to pick one candidate to smear and effecively hold the political process hostage? 

Now the question is what do they want, and that's where things get a bit omnious, but don't kid yourself, Russia didn't do this because they care abou the US. It is done to destabilize the US, no ifs, ands, or buts, their long game here is to destabilize the US and to push it to break apart so that they can further their agenda in Europe and globally. 

Hand waving it away because this time a candidate you preferred won doesn't change that fact. They did not do this for the "lulz". Several things are expected now I suspect, chiefly from Trump that sanctions against Russia will have to be dropped, and NATO needs to back off so Russia can have more leverage in "influencing" other Eastern European countries. 

I think from now on actually Russia will interject into all major elections, US and Europe included. Why not? It works great. You can destablize other countries by bankrolling/pushing candidates who are either unhinged themselves or willing to be manipulated by you. 

That's not what I said.

What I said is that since we know that media/special interests/foreign powers/etc will always want to try and influence US elections (this should not be surprising to anybody, seriously. I mean really. It would be far more surprising if they DIDNT try.) and the recent hacks exposed vulnerabilities, then it falls onto the political parties to make sure they are not vulnerable to such influence.

It does not excuse the said groups from their attempts at espionage. And prosecution/retaliation (once irrefutable proof is found) is warranted. The same way it does not excuse the US when it does shady espionage activities. But espionage is a reality in our world. Let's not pretend it is not.

When is the last time a foreign government *actively* interjected themselves into a US election by doing things like trying to actively doing things like hacking into computers to favor one candidate over another? 

The Saudis or Chinese or whoever may donate to a favorable candidate (though often they just donate to both sides), but this is the first time I can recall an American election having active involvement from a foreign government, one which is lets not kid ourselves, hostile to the United States.

Even at the height of the Cold War, Russia would not have dared then to try to interfere with an American election.