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Soundwave said:
zorg1000 said:

Yes, you are making it look worse than it is, a 80-90 million to 75-80 million decline is not a massive difference. Everybody knows their home consoles have declined with the exception of Wii, nobody will deny that but their overall hardware sales have remained relatively stable, gen over and year after year with 3DS+Wii U showing a modest decline.

What are you talking about? Nobody said they should aim for Wii U sales, you're just spouting nonsense at this point.

Sure, go ahead and use FY93 to FY13, its about a 25% decline, I just said in my last post 3DS+Wii U are down but its not a huge amount, its a modest decline from non-DS/Wii generations. Lets also compare FY94 (10 million) to FY14 (12 million) or FY95 (10 million) to FY15 (10 million).

Overall Nintendo of the last 5 years has seen a modest decline from the early 90s, the late 90s or the early 00s.

There are some misleading things here though. 

Like you can look at 3DS versus GBA and say "well GBA sold 80 million and 3DS is at 63 million or so, this is not a big decrease". 

But the GBA had a shortened lifespan in which it sold most of its systems over 3 years before the DS came out. 

Imagine where 3DS sales would be if Nintendo launched the Switch or 4DS or whatever in 2014. 

GBA was on pace to hit 100 million, and fairly easily at that. Nintendo rushing DS to market skewed things quite a bit. 

The last time Nintendo had sub-10 million shipments of portables before 3DS was 1996/March 1997 when they shipped 7 million Game Boys. After 1998 with the push of Pokemon and launch of Game Boy Color they've shipped 11+ million portables every year since then .... until we get to the 3DS era. The last 2-3 years of the 3DS have all seen sub-10 million portable shipments, so the wheels have maybe not fallen off with the 3DS, but they've definitely gotten themselves stuck in mud. 

The 6.79 million shipment of 3DS last fiscal year is the lowest number for Nintendo portables in 20+ years. You have to go back to before Pokemon was created to find a lower portable shipment. 

Sure, just like its misleading to say 3DS is a decline from Gameboy. A device with a 6 year cycle vs one with a 12 year cycle.

The whole argument started when he said 3DS+Wii U is a massive decline from pre-Playstation era sales, which is untrue.



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