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potato_hamster on 04 January 2017
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zorg1000 said:
potato_hamster said:

Wow. That's a classic case of skewing the numbers to make what your selling look better. I love how you group Nintendo's sales into arbitrary 5 year periods, and mash handheld sales into home console sales so that the sales of Nintendo's more successful consoles are spread out over multiple 5 year periods to mask the fact that console-to-console sales have a steady and consistent decline.

Look we all know that Nintendo's Gameboy sales were actually backloaded, and we all know Nintendo saw great sales out of the DS, the Wii. It doesn't change the fact that if you take the year-on-year sales separated by console it again becomes apparent what I'm talking about.

But it's cool. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

I'll take a look at your 80 million figure later. I get closer to 90 million going by my numbers, but I probably should have clarified I didn't mean literally on the release date, I meant more of the time Playstation really started to take traction, which to me is after the release of Final Fantasy VII (1997-1998) - that really seemed to be the point the tide really started to turn away from Nintendo being the console of choice for the average gamer.

Not really, I was going to break it down between generations but I know how you don't believe in generations and think they are completely arbitrary and you were the one who combined SNES+Gameboy, why would I seperate handhelds and consoles when not even you do? That makes no sense.

Break it down anyway you want, by generation, every 5 years, every 3 years or every year. Nintendo has been incredibly consistent with the expection of the DS/Wii era and a few poor years here and there.

Fine, use 1997/1998. FY97 & FY98 each saw Nintendo ship about 20 million units of Gameboy & Nintendo 64 hardware. About the same as SNES+GB in FY92 or GC+GBA in FY02 or 3DS+Wii U in FY12.

Seriously skew the numbers any way you want, 3DS+Wii U is down compared to the others but its not by some huge margin like you are pretending it is.

Ohh man, I took the two Nintendo flagship consoles (home console and handheld) when the PS1 was released and compared them to the latest two Nintendo flagship consoles. I'm a monster. But you're right, I must be obfuscating the data to make it look worst than it actually, I guess. So I'll keep them seperate. I should have just talked about home consoles, but then you're comparing SNES lifetime sales (49 million) or N64 (33 million) and compare it to Wii U sales (14 million). Or maybe just handheld sales, but then we'd be comparing Gameboy sales (118 million) and 3DS sales (61 million).

Yeah... that's totally consistent!

Nah you're right. Nintendo should be aiming to about equal Wii U sales with the Nintendo Switch. They should be totally happy with that, right? They have nothing to worry about. They're doing just as well as they were when they were selling Super Nintendos and Gameboys. Of course they are. Also, really cute that you chose FY92 and FY12. Great job. Perhaps you didn't choose FY93 and FY2013 because that's 23.7 million units vs 17.5 million units. Oops.