potato_hamster said:
zorg1000 said:
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=701305
You might want to go over your numbers again, as of March 1995 (PS1 launched in late 94 in Japan & late 95 in the West) SNES+Gameboy had shipped roughly 80 million units. SNES was about 4 years old and Gameboy about 6 years old so basically the same age as Wii U & 3DS currently.
Here are the hardware totals every 5 years since FY90 (when they started the April-March setup)
April 1990 to March 1995-99.57 million
April 1995 to March 2000-97.06 million
April 2000 to March 2005-118.07 million
April 2005 to March 2010-209.60 million
April 2010 to March 2015-117.30 million
April 2015 to March 2017-18.96 million (based on current fiscal year projections)
Nintendo has been incredibly consistent for the last 25 years with the exception of a 5 year period of massive growth, a period which you just called a fad.
They have had a few rough years recently with Wii U failing to take off and 3DS sales declining but thats really no different than the rough patch they had in the mid-90s when GB & SNES were declining and N64 & Pokemon hadn't released yet to boost annual hardware sales.
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Wow. That's a classic case of skewing the numbers to make what your selling look better. I love how you group Nintendo's sales into arbitrary 5 year periods, and mash handheld sales into home console sales so that the sales of Nintendo's more successful consoles are spread out over multiple 5 year periods to mask the fact that console-to-console sales have a steady and consistent decline.
Look we all know that Nintendo's Gameboy sales were actually backloaded, and we all know Nintendo saw great sales out of the DS, the Wii. It doesn't change the fact that if you take the year-on-year sales separated by console it again becomes apparent what I'm talking about.
But it's cool. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
I'll take a look at your 80 million figure later. I get closer to 90 million going by my numbers, but I probably should have clarified I didn't mean literally on the release date, I meant more of the time Playstation really started to take traction, which to me is after the release of Final Fantasy VII (1997-1998) - that really seemed to be the point the tide really started to turn away from Nintendo being the console of choice for the average gamer.
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Not really, I was going to break it down between generations but I know how you don't believe in generations and think they are completely arbitrary and you were the one who combined SNES+Gameboy, why would I seperate handhelds and consoles when not even you do? That makes no sense.
Break it down anyway you want, by generation, every 5 years, every 3 years or every year. Nintendo has been incredibly consistent with the expection of the DS/Wii era and a few poor years here and there.
Fine, use 1997/1998. FY97 & FY98 each saw Nintendo ship about 20 million units of Gameboy & Nintendo 64 hardware. About the same as SNES+GB in FY92 or GC+GBA in FY02 or 3DS+Wii U in FY12.
Seriously skew the numbers any way you want, 3DS+Wii U is down compared to the others but its not by some huge margin like you are pretending it is.