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@PlagueOfLocust:

Man, we were talking about games, Manhunt, and the AO vs. M ratings. Then, someone used movies as an example, which lead us to NC-17 vs. R ratings. "Kids" in this context, are 17 year olds.

You then chipped in to contest one guy's claims, but now I can't read your reponses in the context of the debate we were having? I repeat, we were all talking about 17 year olds - at least I was! Weren't/aren't you? If so, why? Maybe that was simply off-topic and I misunderstood it. But that most certainly is the age range we're dealing with when discussing AO vs. M and NC-17 vs. R.

I don't think "kids of all ages" should have access to the sexual themes of Lucía (as well as countless other sexual movies that can't even manage to be rated R), but I do think they better well be equipped to deal with them at the age of 17! It's not like we're talking kindergarten here.

I see you think Manhunt could very well be M. I actually disagree, and just can't see how that plays with your entire participation in this thread, were you state violence is "as bad as" sex... but nevermind that. Also, I'm not even going to raise the issue of AO for ero games. But I'll ask you this: do you think the Hot Coffee thing alone warranted GTA an AO rating? That removing that one thing makes it OK again!? Beause that's the (pretty messed up, IMO) society you live in if you're from the states. And that's my critique, and I'll respectfully stand by it against anyone who thinks that makes any sense at all.


Reality has a Nintendo bias.