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WagnerPaiva said:
Soundwave said:

I'm sorry but posts like this just sound as whiny and entitled as the "SJWs" you "hyper sensitive to any criticism men" get.

1st off -- society changes ok. It's not 1970 or 1980 or 1880 anymore. The world you go to sleep to dies a little bit and evolves forward the next day. Change happens. Constant whining about change to me is part of the same coin.

Yes you can't say the same things without impunity today, when I was in high school I was a self admitted jock. I played sports and the banter was different then. "Stop playing a fucking fag" for example was accepted "trash" talk. Today it's not with kids that age that I see, and you know what? I say good on them. It was stupid when it was done back then, but no guy really had the balls to step up and say it was wrong, we just all went along with it, and that isn't any better.

Also Ripley is a fictional movie character and the "kick ass" fetishization is primarily to appeal to (well) men ... lets get that clear. If you want to choose an apt example maybe try using a real person. Like Oprah Winfrey or someone. It's like saying Darth Vader is strong in the movies, so men have nothing to complain about.

I actually think she is a good role model for girls, cause she does not have super powers like Mila Jojovich in Resident Evil, which is just a god among men and nothing can hurt her.

To me what makes Ripley such a hero is because in the first 3 movies I always felt that she was weak, fragile, afraid... But, even with those shortcomings, she fought and won.

With Resident Evil, Mila was never afraid, cause she was a goddess and nothing could really stop her.

I love characters that have a weak side, but are brave.

Edit: I agree that Vader was strong, but when I was a kid I never wanted to be him cause he was evil and that was a turn-off. Luke was my guy, although he was weak, he did his best to overcome his shortcomings.

I'm sorry but movie characters are just mainly for entertainment. Sure they can have some value as a role model, but *real* human beings are far better role models. Ripley is a character created in equal measure to appeal to men who like "masculinized women" in a way, "Alien" as a film was aimed at men who like science fiction and horror movies, not so much women.