Obama should close his mouth and leave in dignity

[Mr Puggsly]

Soundwave said:

Mr Puggsly said:

Trump is unique, he was able to do things most candidates would never say or bounce back from. This is probably because Trump is a candidate we viewed as a human being so we accept he isnt perfect but more important he's discussing issues in a way people like.

Hillary is unique as well. She was not trusted by many of her own supporters, she couldnt get the same crowds as Trump in many states. She has a lot of baggage, shes deemed corrupt, and not releasing those emails bit her in the ass to the very end. No other democrat could be perceived as corrupt as her and still represent the party in an election. She had support simply for being the wife of Bill Clinton.

I think the green party and libertarians did better than usual simply because many voters didnt like either Trump or Hillary. The green party is essentially democrats and stole just enough votes to take swing states from Hillary.

Trump is unique because he has a "show business" personality that is kind of already synonmous with a kinda tacky/cheesy aura. So when he says tasteless, crude, etc. things, he's able to spin out of it.

However stuff like that has a tendancy to eventually come and bite one in the ass. 

I don't feel like he won that election more than Hilary lost it. She didn't campaign hard enough in the midwest and had no clear messaging. Also she allowed the Clinton name to be crapped on constantly, but never pushed back by reminding people Bill Clinton is the last president under which America had great economic prosperity and created more jobs than any modern president in history (even from 92-96 before the internet boom was a big thing, he created a ton of jobs). 

She didn't talk about the economy enough period. 

I agree with your assessment of Trump. People already knew he had a crude personality prior to the election. I loved his appearances on Howard Stern years ago.

I didnt bother watching debate 2 and 3 because it was evident Hillary's more focused on attacking Trump personally with racism and sexism. So naturally Trump had to push the narrative shes dishonest which many believe.

Bill Clinton seemed to hurt and help her. He's considered a great president so people want her for that. But she also pushed the narrative Trump is a sexual deviant, kinda like Bill was accused of. People are genuinely turned off to thought of Bill and Hillary being an actual loving couple. So maybe she was reluctant to take advantage of Bill.

We should all be able to agree she did not focus on the economy enough and she pandered to Benrnie supporters.