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Mr Puggsly said:
Soundwave said:

Trump dragged the level needed to become president down so low that even the pussy grabbing comment couldn't sink him, there's no person in American history who'd win the presidency with that on tape for the world to hear. 

What I do have a problem with is the FBI director playing favorites and injecting himself into the election like a week before, gifting Trump the news cycle for a week. That's not the role of the FBI or any federal agency to do that. And that may well have cost Clinton the election, Nate Silver has shown that a substantial part of the vote only made up their mind the week before the election and Clinton only lost in Pennslyvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin by 80,000 votes or so ... a tiny amount that easily could've been swayed by that. 

It's especially disingenious because they announced just the day before the election that basically they found nothing new. It's fairly transparent what the motive for doing that was. 

That I do have a problem with. 

Trump is unique, he was able to do things most candidates would never say or bounce back from. This is probably because Trump is a candidate we viewed as a human being so we accept he isnt perfect but more important he's discussing issues in a way people like.

Hillary is unique as well. She was not trusted by many of her own supporters, she couldnt get the same crowds as Trump in many states. She has a lot of baggage, shes deemed corrupt, and not releasing those emails bit her in the ass to the very end. No other democrat could be perceived as corrupt as her and still represent the party in an election. She had support simply for being the wife of Bill Clinton.

I think the green party and libertarians did better than usual simply because many voters didnt like either Trump or Hillary. The green party is essentially democrats and stole just enough votes to take swing states from Hillary.

Trump is unique because he has a "show business" personality that is kind of already synonmous with a kinda tacky/cheesy aura. So when he says tasteless, crude, etc. things, he's able to spin out of it.

However stuff like that has a tendancy to eventually come and bite one in the ass. 

I don't feel like he won that election more than Hilary lost it. She didn't campaign hard enough in the midwest and had no clear messaging. Also she allowed the Clinton name to be crapped on constantly, but never pushed back by reminding people Bill Clinton is the last president under which America had great economic prosperity and created more jobs than any modern president in history (even from 92-96 before the internet boom was a big thing, he created a ton of jobs). 

She didn't talk about the economy enough period.