Pemalite said:
CrazyGPU said:
It will have the same power of a modern tablet or phone. Thats not a Console, Its a tablet designed and sold like a console. Some say its close to 1 Teraflop of power. Thats 16 bits floating point. If you consider the commonly used 32 bits floating points it´ll give you the 400-500 Gigaflops number. PS4 pro has near 10 times that power, and they say that this thing is going to run 3rd party software? come on, how many games? and how are they going to run on the go with 150 Gigaflops?
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Unless you have an understanding of how Flops relates to graphics, then presenting it in such a way is completely and utterly pointless.
Tegra can do more work flop for flop than Graphics Core Next in the next-gen twins.
CrazyGPU said:
Now lets talk games. Nintendo is always creative and great with games, But I remember that Wii U games were getting out very slow and Nintendo told the press that they made a mistake calculating HD games cost. So I guess 4k or nicely looking 1080p games might be very very expensive for them. What are they going to do? games at 720p. Cheaper games and cheaper work on lighting and textures. Of course they are going to sell them to you at full price.
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You can take any game and run it at whatever resolution you want. The cost doesn't actually change.
The cost comes from needing to build higher quality assets, which is generally required regardless of the resolution you run at. (We aren't Photo-realistic at any resolution yet.)
CrazyGPU said:
Before, I was thinking, if this thing run at desktop like a PS4, with 1080p in medium quality, i´ll might buy it, it will have the 3rd party games and great nintendo games. A win win situation. Now all I see is a hanheld with nintendo games. And yes, Nintendo has great games, but how many? and mostly the same franchises.
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So... Basically an Xbox One then? That was never going to happen. - Unfortunately people didn't realign their expectations when they discovered it was Tegra powered. (Like Ouya.)
Once it was confirmed it was Tegra powered it was sitting between the Wii U and Xbox One in terms of capability. - That fact doesn't change even with the downclocks.
If people had an understanding of what Tegra was capable of, then this backlash wouldn't have happened to the same degree.
Partly that was Nintendo's fault for letting rumours fly around about every single hardware possibility for months and months... And the fanbase for expecting it to be a competitor to the Playstation 4 Pro and Scorpio.
It was just never going to happen. Like Ever.
Intrinsic said:
In a way i don't blame them anymore, this is simply what they have to do to make it. They just can't compete with sony and Ms anymore, they have to do their own thing in a different enough way for them to still be relevant even without third party support.
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I have to disagree.
Nintendo is more than capable of competing with Sony and Microsoft and leveraging its brand to take a chunk of the market. This is Nintendo. - They are the Disney of Video games in essence.
Besides, it isn't like Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo are designing the chips that are inside of these boxes, they are taking semi-custom/vanilla designs made by AMD/nVidia/IBM, packaging it nice and neatly in a nice looking box and whacking a sticker on top and calling it a day.
However, by Nintendo not having competitive hardware that allows for the easy porting of big AAA titles like Battlefield, Call of Duty, Elder Scrolls etc'. Then they are loosing out on millions of potential gamers/customers... And even advertising.
When was the last time you saw a AAA title advertised via video or poster that was available on the Next-Gen twins which also said "Also available on WiiU?" - That is advertising Nintendo looses out on.
Nintendo can be competitive and still remain successfull if it plays it's cards right. - No one thought Microsoft would be able to take as much of the market as it did from Sony with the Xbox 360, especially after the original Xbox, but they did it, if Microsoft can do it, you can bet the farm Nintendo can with things like Mario and Pokemon.
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