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bonzobanana on 18 December 2016
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Miyamotoo said:
bonzobanana said:

I'm sure the fan operates in a number of modes when portable, off, slow, fast and possibly speeds in between slow and fast. Thats just normal for a portable device running off battery power.

There is a generational difference between graphic processing units, later architecture tends to be more efficient. While the wii u was only 176 gflops I don't think there was anyone who would argue that it wasn't still more powerful than the gpu's of ps3 and 360 that had higher gflops and the nvidia switch gpu's will be the same above the wii u performance.

Nintendo don't release specifications nowadays so we won't get that information in January. It took a lot of work and time to finally get the real figures for wii u and the starting position was over 4x the actual value. As someone said about the wii u, the real reason 176 gflops wasn't accepted for so long was people were in denial about just how low Nintendo would go in performance terms.

There is a real chance my Switch figures are actually well over the real figure. 

We shall see but I hope the same old excuses aren't wheeled out including developer laziness and quick and dirty port that doesn't take advantage of the hardware when the Switch fails to provide games that match what would be expected of a 600 gflops system in March. Nvidia and arm chips are very well documented with a lot of developer hours so the Switch should be firing on pretty much all cylinders out of the gate.

Why would Nintendo use worse performance than stock Tegra X1 when we already saw that full Tegra X1 is very capable to run in mobile device, not to mention that in Switch portable mode Tegra will be underclock and that means higher battery life and cooler device. While in dock mode there no reason at all that Switch has lower power than stock Tegra X1, and actually because in that way its not used like mobile chip and dont have problem with power, battery and cooling, NIntendo can easily custom it/made it to have higher performance than stock X1.

So yes, I saying that that 400 Gflops or less in dock mode is worst posible case and actually realistic same like same infos saying that Switch will have around 1TF, 500-600 Gflops is most realistic for dock mode and figure I saw people mentioned most.

Definitely Nintendo will give us some specs about Switch in January event, but after that event some NDAs will probably will be stop existing, so we could get some infos about exact power from Nintendo insider or 3rd parties leakers, so yes in January hopefully we will have more infos about exact Switch power.

 

Again its not realistic at all. Tegra X1 has a peak gflops of about 500 with twice the memory bandwidth and your stating Nintendo a company with a history of going cheap and low in performance will get 600 gflops. Don't use internet opinions on your side because historically with Nintendo the majority are wrong as was the case with the wii and wii u. Not just slightly wrong either. Again its a custom chip with half the memory bandwidth and you stating it will perform better than the reference design is not realistic. Anyway its pretty clear where I stand on this and may well be proven wrong but more likely by a lower figure than a higher figure. We don't even want 600 gflops with a 20nm fabrication process because battery life will be terrible if it has to provide something like 2/3rds that performance when portable, i.e. 400 gflops. It probably needs to be down at 200-250 gflops when portable.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8811/nvidia-tegra-x1-preview/2