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naruball on 18 December 2016
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Mummelmann said:
naruball said:

Oh come on. You're better than this. You know damn well that there's a massive difference between making promises you don't keep and lying through your teeth.

Well, is there such a huge difference? It it better to lie and then not come clean? The vast majority of campaign promises are lofty and unlikely to come true, and those who make them know this full well. Trust me, I'm no Trump fan, far from it, but at least he admits to speaking BS, this is part of the reason why he won at all.

I dislike politicians in general, it seems like regardless of party and affiliation, corruption and egocentrical thinking becomes the norm. Like in Norway recently, they had a vote on whether or not to double the severance pay for politicians who have served in office, from one year to two years, average severance pay being in the order of about 100-120.000$, the Social Democrats, Left, Progress Party (populist right) and Christian Peoples Party voted for, almost all of them, that's a really widespread agreement on unjust and unfair terms for the most overappreciated profession in the world, most of these folks have never held a real job in their lives.

It's the same in Sweden, the right pretends that it's simply a question of future economical concern and the well being of their fellow citizens when they opposed almost any immigration, and the left preaches anti-hatred, anti-violence and tolerance and then turn out to be both violent, intolerant and hateful.

In short; politicians are assholes, Trump is also an asshole but at least he's open about it, which makes him easier to oppose and disect... I guess that's my point. Or something.

Yes, but don't you think that there are assholes who from a scale from 1 to 10 (10 being the worst) deserve a 5, while others a 10?

For example Obama tried to do a lot of things but was blocked by Republicans who voted against his proposals because he didn't have the majority. It seems that he did try to do certain things and wasn't intentionally lying (and even if he was about some things, definitely not most things like Trump).

Just like with murderers. There are (A) those who killed someone because he did something to them (still, they shouldn't and they belong in jail)
and (B) those who kill 5 black people because they are black. I'm sorry but even if they're open about it, I think they're worse. And even though they are both murders, they're really not the same.