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Rafie said:
pray4mojo said:

No BC so they can leaverage PS Now.

No CD player (after lying and saying they would, look it up)

Pay wall for MP

Lack of AAA PS Plus games

Upping cost of PS Plus $10

Not using all that revenue to make their servers as secure as XBL

Not allowing you to change your own background to leaverage paid background themes

Microsoft did just as much bullshit on their end at the start of the generation. So no, they're no exempt from the bullshit either.

 

PS Now isn't really successful. It's really just....there.

Didn't find any evidence about the CD player. Not that it really matters.

The paywall for MP was to secure more servers.

Why do people keep saying lack of triple A titles. They do have triple A titles. Just not every month. Same as GWG.

Charging 10 more bucks for Plus is the same for the "mp" on point 3.

You do know that Xbox has been hit quite a few times this generation already. It's not just Sony.

I don't really personally care about making my own background. Does Xbox One let you do that? I've never tried to. I just used my achievement pics as my background for Xbox One.

 

I still don't think Sony will be arrogant on a high scale. Everything that you listed isn't evidence of arrogance. That's just business decisions. Same as Microsoft.

I think his definition of arrogance might be "not trying as hard as the competitor", a sentiment which I strongly share. And yes, you are able to change your background on the Xbox One for free. Also, actual complaints regarding the PS4. 

  • Limitation of mod support
  • Lack of plug and play external storage
  • Lack of more efficient removable battery wireless controllers
  • Poor server framework (they've done a lot, but they're still sort of sluggish and unstable) 
  • The rise in pricing (again, they were doing all right before)
  • No UHD BD on the Pro
  • No cross region purchases (purchasing from the JP store in XBL was relatively hassle free. The JP PSN Store where it actually makes sense? It's a clusterfuck)
  • PC Support (MS dropped the ball here, this was either a very good or very bad thing, but I think it was very good and Sony still refuses to start porting their exclusives to PC) 
  • Budget and quality controls (as mentioned before, a reason many JP games don't make it to the Xbox One seems to be thanks to a policy created to weed out shovelware titles. The policy sets a minimum of 200000 physical discs as a sales quota to be fulfilled by any dev not an indie)
  • Adding to the one above, a lot of PS games bank on cheap sex sells tactics rather than seeming compelling (around the vast majority of whatever it might be Idea Factory creates)
  • Refusal to allow localizations of certain games (DOAX3 and Grisaia were both to be localized, and Sony blocked them. In the former, at least Kecmo decided before they were told they'd veto the localization anyways while Grisaia was blocked on the spot) 
I think they aren't terribly bad, but they definitely are the kind of dev I don't like. They act in a way that benefits devs more than gamers. MS initially tried to cosy up to AAA devs but gamers reacted badly, but since Sony did this covertly they were able to run away with a free pass. 
I don't consider it fair, but then again, with generations, if you drop the ball at the start, you are sort of down... 
Even if you're not out.