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Soundwave on 10 December 2016
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Turkish said:
Soundwave said:

Obama did counter it by badly hurting Russia's oil industry with sanctions, Russia has been hurting economically big time for that.  

Russia bought off Trump and the reward for that will be the lifting of those sanctions. Probably a great deal for them, to buy one politican is a relatively small thing compared to the money they were losing on sanctions. 

What Obama needed was a hard response. By hurting them economically he actually made Russia far more desperate and dangerous. If America just said "stop here we draw the line" and showed its military might is not the fuck with when they invaded Ukraine and Georgia, Putin wouldn't have gone so far as he did.

First of all, Russia invade Georgia under George W. Bush. Which shows they don't give much of a fuck about who's in office, as Bush is about as militant of a president as you'll get. 

Second, no one in the West is going to war over Crimea. Because that's the only option there, what are you suggesting exactly? "Kinda, sorta" engage 1-on-1 with Russia forces? There is no inbetween, either you are at war with them or you are not and going to war over Crimea would be dumber than the Iraq war.