November 2016 NPD Thread! Hardware estimates in the OP!

[Madword]

 

Whats being said is just the possible reasoning behind PS not showing their numbers. There are legit reasons why they might not want to show them like how PS knows they've won this gen so they dont care, but its just as possible that PS is "losing ground" and wants to keep that hush hush. No business in their right mind goes out and tells people we're losing and hopes to keep the momentum going, especially with the launch of an updated product to the line up. This is why after years of PS boasting about their sales, it seems odd why they all of the sudden changed their tone.

If PS only won because of their Pro sales, its concerning to a degree. Yes they have Pro, yes they have a 6 month head start on Switch and around 1 year on Scorpio, but that just makes you wonder how much more ground can MS make up when Scorpio shows up to this gen. Even more concerning would be what if Scorpio shows up and its actually next gen, what then?

How Pro sales were divided up between existing PS4 users and new buyers also would help answer some questions, but 2017 sales should tell us that. If sales stay strong for Pro, no worries, if they slowly dwindle, its most likely because PS4 users were just upgrading.

Its all a bunch of what if's, and nobody knows for sure, but thats the conversation at hand. At the end of the day, PS won, which is great, and was likely, so congrats to them.

They've just shown their numbers, did you not see their 50m report. Or are you expecting them to mention USA only sales each month, which they havent been doing this whole gen (and they didnt do that for many years on the PS3 either to be fair)...whether winning or losing, Sony have not been giving monthly numbers, so dont know why you think they have been. They only report on the big numbers, not the monthly numbers unless there is something significant, in this case "Best BF ever".

Your statements are full of what if's the only thing that matters is good sales numbers and good software numbers, I think we can assume that they've done well in November, and they had a lull the previous few months. Software releases this year havent been as strong as last year, but a small descrease in % will not be of concern to them, the console is doing better than their quite aggressive forecasts.