November 2016 NPD Thread! Hardware estimates in the OP!

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jason1637 said:

drkohler said:

What kind of bizarre logic is this?

If there weren't a PS4 Pro, those 300k people waiting for the Pro would have simply bought a PS4. There is no "barely" in correct logic, Sony simply sold more consoles that MS in November - End of story.

I bet most of the 300k were upgraders.

Shu made a comment on this. He said they expected a lot of upgraders but he was surprised by how many Pros sold to first time buyers. So I don't think most were upgraders.