| Wyrdness said: Except the trend culminating for the Wii U has little bearing on the Switch given that it's a hybrid device that unifies two userbases and markets in one, your argument here also is a bit back and fourth as you admit 7th gen is an anomly yet try to use numbers from it to back your trend argument. Consumers owning both a handheld and a console is far from a headache for the Switch in fact it's a massive boost, because if PS4 and X1 owners are buying portables then it means NS is being sold to consumers of their competitors as well. Your argument on the Wii U is as vague as one can get as you keep trying to pin Wii U's faliures on one specific thing which was never even the issue and even then your attempt to link a similar argument to Switch is even weaker because for one it's not hard for Switch to be aimed at both portable and home console gamers as it's the only portable upcoming from any platform holder and will also be the only main platform Nintedo is focused on that can be played in the house as a home console. First drop this vague notion that the Wii U's problem was who it was aimed at because that was never the problem, the problems were several intricate ones ranging from design of the platform, droughts, pricing, marketing, consumer confusion and an unsure approach. The design hampered any approach with the main feature being intutive but was limited and restricted, consumers didn't even know the platform was even out for the good part of two years and those that did didn't know if it was a new platform or an add on for the Wii because of the name and non existent marketing, platform had droughts due to resources needing to be split for it and the 3DS, pricing was not very competitive and Nintendo themselves were unsure how to handle the platform due to taking advice from others instead of doing their own thing. The last part alone is always going to cause problems because Sony had the same issue with Vita, if you don't know how to handle your system it won't take off, these were the problems with the Wii U not focusing on different userbases. The Switch reveal and even the Tonight Show airing has already done the hard work of establishing the concept of the platform, anyone who watches either of them will know what the concept of Switch is, all that Nintendo needs to do is just push the Switch as a gaming platform with simple marketing as both portable and home gamers know what it's about already. The's no bipolar reaction to it the's only the minority groups of people in forums overthinking statements and bits of footage here and there, Nintendo have simply said Switch is a home gaming system that can be taken with you and the footage so far of the platform has conveyed that nicely, the video showed it's portable function and how it will work on the go because that's a major feature for it and the style of gaming on it is still home console like no matter where you go the's no identity issue here the unit covers both markets in its concept and design and people understand that. You're free to wait and see all you want but that doesn't mean other people have to cease any discussion of any news that comes out. |
I don't think we're gonna agree on pretty much anything and we're just going in circles.
Bolded; that's the kind of thing that ruins discussions, I've never claimed we can't or shouldn't discuss news, what I'm reacting to is people jumping up and down and taking a nonsensical list of "partners" and some pretty paltry first offerings by way of old ports and then seemingly assuming that major studios will offer good support for a platform based on nothing but sweettalk. All this in spite of these same developers and studios having done the same thing before, only a few years back at that. I find it strange to substantiate rumors and claims with so little basis, I guess I'm more logic driven than most in my view of the industry, which isn't to say that that's better or worse than being more personally or even emotinally involved, there's room for everyone.
Miyamotoo; same with us, it's not really going anywhere at all. Yes, positive things are positive, and that's fine. Let's leave it at that then.
