Why Trump supporters stand by debunked claim

[Mr Puggsly]

Soundwave said:

Mr Puggsly said:

Are children not a concern when taking the legalization of marijuana into consideration? Generally speaking, I believe parents want their children to avoid pot. I'm an anti pot guy, I just don't want people getting into legal trouble for using it responsibly.

Again, you blame the republicans for people not making enough effort to get an ID. Your arguments are weak given states that require ID aren't putting crazy restrictions. Its basically just state ID and military, that's perfectly reasonable. I don't believe republicans feel a need to deter minorities from voting, I beleive many minorities just don't care enough to vote and believe they're in a country against their people. I say that as a minority that talks to minorities, left wing media has brain washed a lot of them in a very negative way.

Lets be frank, ACLU is significantly more left wing than right wing. If ACLU and other minority groups don't support National ID, then neither will many democrats. They will argue some sort of racial or financial disparity created by it, they always do. Dems don't even want us tracking illegals in fear they will be deported. They will call national ID fascism or something like that.

Legalize illegal immigrants who don't have any history of violent crime. Let them pay a fine and get them legal so they can start paying taxes. Nuff said. The overwhelming majority of these people are good, hard working people. Impliment tighter immigration laws for those who want to come in later, but those who are already here, legalize. Living in fear is not what America is about, these people don't want anything different than what immigrants from Ireland, UK, Germany, Italy, wanted 80 years ago, which is simply a better future for their kids. 

Voter ID should be free for everyone and easy to obtain. 

You should be able to vote if you've served your time. Why should you never be able to vote for example if you committed a felony at age 19 and are say 35 now? If you can get a job and are allowed to function in every other aspect of society, you should be able to vote. This is only a way to disenfranchise large portions of the population since the US locks up more people than other country on the planet. We have more people in jail than China despite having like a fraction of the population.

Oh and perhaps it's time to stop making jail a for-profit institution. We're paying tax dollars to make these companies running these prisons obscenely rich. And because they're rich of course there is strong motivation to make sure they are fully stocked, no one wants to fund a 1/3 full prison.  

Get all these political ideological bullshit out of the way. I think if presented on the basis of the *issues* most Americans could come to a fair consensus on a lot of these issues, they've just become so politicized that no common sense is allowed. 

I'm all for allowing people who never commited crimes and are a value to this country to stay. But before that we do that we need to get tougher on immigration. Gotta start enforcing existing laws, starting finding who's here, deal with sanctuary cities, and ofcourse start getting rid of criminal illegals.

I can agree with that. But people pretend getting a state ID is harder than it actually is. Many don't have a state IDs just because they don't make any effort.

Most states allow people to vote when they served their time. How does China deal with their criminals? Much harsher than us from my understanding. China apparently executes more people than any other country, look it up.

I think its funny people complain about how full our prisions are, but crime does go down when you put the violent criminals roaming the streets in prision. Frankly, we may not have enough people in prision so I don't really care if people are bothered by our prision population. I am however concerned our prision system makes people more dangerous.