Why Trump supporters stand by debunked claim

[Mr Puggsly]

BMaker11 said:

Mr Puggsly said:

I don't think people against marijuana are just being emotional. They have real legitimate concerns about recreational drug use. I personally support at the very least decriminalization of using drugs.

I said if for any reaons its difficult for someone to get an ID, they should be assisted. Its just part of being a productive member of society kinda like forcing people to be in school.

If ACLU defends hate groups I bet its freedom of speech. I doubt ACLU supports what they actually say, which you're basically implying.

Again, if liberals can't support state IDs for voting they won't get behind national IDs for voting.  Especially if a significant number of minorities aren't making an effort to have them.

People who are against marijuana and have legitimate reaasons for it can voice those legitimate reasons. "Think of the children" isn't a legitimate reason. It's a reason to tug on the heartstrings of uninformed people. If we "thought of the children" for everything, we wouldn't have anything. Because you can OD on Tylenol. You can crash a car. You can catch a house on fire. At some point, some personal responsibility has to come into play. 

I'm glad you think that people who have trouble getting an ID should be assisted. But sadly, that isn't the reality. Republicans actively suppress the vote, as I've stated and provided proof of. Otherwise, when they enact laws that make only "certain kinds" of ID acceptable to vote, they would pass contingent laws to help people obtain them, that need help. But they don't do that. 

And yes, the ACLU does defend them for freedom of speech. They defend their right to say it, they don't defend the speech itself. They are the American Civil Liberties Union. They believe a National ID with biometric information would be a violation of privacy, which they believe affects people's civil liberties, hence why they are against it. But the ACLU isn't the Democratic party platform. The ACLU isn't even a part of Democratic leadership. So just because they are against it, but vote Democrat, it doesn't mean Democratic lawmakers are against a National ID. 

And liberals would total get behind a National ID for voting. Remember, the Democratic platform is to expand the list of acceptable forms of ID. Why would the be against another form of ID? It's not that Democrats "don't support state IDs for voting". As I pointed out before, they are opposed to "only certain kinds of ID being acceptable", and then those "certain kinds" are IDs that minorities and poor people typically don't have. That is the essence behind being against voter ID laws. Don't specify "state ID" as a basis for opposition (it's not). Focus on the "only these forms of ID that many minorities don't have is now a requirement for voting" as the basis for opposition. 

Are children not a concern when taking the legalization of marijuana into consideration? Generally speaking, I believe parents want their children to avoid pot. I'm an anti pot guy, I just don't want people getting into legal trouble for using it responsibly.

Again, you blame the republicans for people not making enough effort to get an ID. Your arguments are weak given states that require ID aren't putting crazy restrictions. Its basically just state ID and military, that's perfectly reasonable. I don't believe republicans feel a need to deter minorities from voting, I beleive many minorities just don't care enough to vote and believe they're in a country against their people. I say that as a minority that talks to minorities, left wing media has brain washed a lot of them in a very negative way.

Lets be frank, ACLU is significantly more left wing than right wing. If ACLU and other minority groups don't support National ID, then neither will many democrats. They will argue some sort of racial or financial disparity created by it, they always do. Dems don't even want us tracking illegals in fear they will be deported. They will call national ID fascism or something like that.