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LurkerJ on 03 December 2016
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Soundwave said:
LurkerJ said:

We know for a fact that the primaries were rigged by the DNC. Why are we using data from the primaries as an indicative of a hypothetical election results?

If Bernie won, he would've continued building momentum and Hillary voters would've voted for him. Unlike the bernie bros who vowed to #neverhillary.

10% of dems voted for Trump, I highly doubt that would've happened if Sanders replaced Hillary.

Trump would've lost voters to Sanders if people got to know about him more, he always stood against immigration and trade deals, the two issues that pushed Trump to win.

He was always against the Iraq and always pro-gay marriage. You can't make a video of Sanders lying for 15 minutes straight like you could with Hillary and Trump.

Sanders is Trump in many ways, but without the personal baggage and the questionable personality. He could've won. Even dumb Hillary lost by few points here and there, why are you making it out to be an impossible mission for Sanders?

To the *middle class* I would agree once people get to know Bernie is probably the most likable candidate in a long, long time. 

Obama has more charisma and booming speech ability, but Sanders might be even better at speaking to the "common man/woman". You can tell he is really genuine about it too, it's no sales job, Hillary always had problems with this. 

Hillary is not a terrible candidate, but she is deficient in some areas. If she had ran in 2004, I think she probably could've beaten George W. Bush. In a campaign against a more conventional opponent she probably does well. I think she would've beaten Ted Cruz (though narrowly), Jeb Bush, or Ben Carson this cycle too, but Marco Rubio probably would've presented her a lot of problems. 

Well, she ran her campaign horrribly. She had this thing about her that people couldn't connect to her or believe what she said. She's been in politics for 30 years and when you are in it for that long you certainly have said things that will come back to haunt you later. Like being anti-gay marriage and pro-trade deals. Her baggage made her unbelievable to many people, especially that everything  she said was taped lol. She's not dumb of course, but she ran her campaign horribly and stupidly.