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Final-Fan said:

If you can't or won't defend the arguments you have put forth, why put them forth at all?  Just say flatly that you believe what you believe regardless of the evidence, and then we don't have to waste all this time. 

Evidence? Beliefs? What the hell are you talking about? We were arguing about ending birthright citizenship for illegal aliens, and whether a Constitutional amendment would be necessary. Obviously, it would not because the Supreme Court has a precedent of interpreting the Constitution very loosely. Do you disagree with that? If so, the burden of evidence is on you. Beyond that point, the discussion just devolved into increasingly pedantic legal arguments that don't matter. If the political will is there, the legality will follow.

Seriously though, what are you talking about? We were never discussing personal beliefs or the evidence behind them. The reason I brought them up in the last post is because the legal arguments just boiled down to post hoc rationalizations for policies that we support. I wasn't trying to defend the position that illegal immigration is bad, of which there is plenty of evidence, but if that's something you want to argue, we can do that.