Why Bernie Sanders wouldn't have won against Donald Trump in the election.

[Soundwave]

haxxiy said:

Soundwave said:

Sanders would've won, and Biden would have too (Pennsylvania is off the map right away) and Obama would've wrecked Trump. Any one of those three guys would've won.

You don't know that and never will. What we know is that Trump would have won even against Obama 2012 because of outperformed him on swing states. 538, if I'm not mistaken, ran the numbers already.

I'm not seeing it from the actual numbers. 

Obama (2012) Pennslyvania: 2,990,274

Trump (2016) Pennslyvania: 2,900,785

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Pennsylvania,_2012

https://ballotpedia.org/Presidential_election_in_Pennsylvania,_2016

Winner: Obama

 

Michigan isn't even close.

Obama (2012): 2,564,569

Trump: 2,279,543

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Michigan,_2012

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Michigan,_2016

 

Wisconsin: Again Obama wins easily

Obama (2012): 1,620,985

Trump: 1,409,282

Ohio: 

Obama (2012): 2,827,709

Trump: 2,771,984

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Ohio,_2012

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Ohio,_2016

Obama also holds Virginia and wins Iowa, albiet by a narrow margin. I'm not sure, but it doesn't seem to like Trump has any possible map to victory here. That's like a total of 80 electoral votes swinging the other way.  

2008 Obama wins in bigger numbers as well.