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soulsamurai said:

Alright I think this forum went a little off topic to what it originally ment. A lot of wii lovers (god forbid me say fan) came in and kinda put a defense wall up in here and twisted some wording around.

He may not like the wii, but that's not his focus. The focus is what wii is doing to the creation of games. The gaming industry is run by "Companies" Most if not all work for profit. Last generation had a perfect mix of games. Core have gotten what they wanted, companies profited. Casual gamers got what they wanted, companies profited just not as much.

Here is the problem now. The wii has brought in such a large amount of people into gaming by offering the same casual games with a new way to play them. Sound good right? Well not exactly.....Most of these people are Casual Gamers. So to cater to them...you give them casual games. Now there is an overabundance of casual players. Companies work for profit remember? This means the main focus of those companies are going to be shifted to casual games. They are going to make shit on a stick and sell it...and tons of it simply because of the overabundance of casual gamers....will buy it. Cheap and easy to make.....Why create a game thats gonna cost millions when you can create a game thats gonna cost thousands and sell just as well.

This leaves the core audience bare. "Hey why don't you play the wii?! It has some core games!!" Not really....I don't consider Zelda to be core....I have played No More Heroes, Fire Emblem, and a few other games considered to be core....They're not good...They our paltry compared to most games from last gen. I would much rather play some Jet Force Gemini on N64. Even these games on the wii that our considered core.....do not sell well.

Eventually because of this dilemna we might so major companies only producing shovelware. We can expect maybe 5 core games a year.....and they will all be considered games that don't sell well because a game like Carnival outsold it 10:1

Companies might abandon the core audience is the problem.....and honestly If I'am stuck playing games like Carnival or super mario galaxy.....then im gonna be forced to do something constructive  


Last generation had a perfect mix of games

The market has spoken, and it says that this generation has a better mix of games.  The record breaking sales of the Wii prove that.  Don't be angry that you just realized that "hardcore" gaming is a niche market.  For me, around six games a year is about right anyway.  I don't have to worry about there being multiple new hardcore titles every month.

They are going to make shit on a stick and sell it...

This seems to be a common misconception about all "casual" games.  None of Nintendo's casual games are shit on a stick.  They are well made, quality games.  Is it just a coincidence that these games sell the best?  I think not.  Companies will realize this, or they will go bankrupt when their shit on a stick doesn't sell.

This leaves the core audience bare.....I don't consider Zelda to be core....

If you don't consider Zelda to be core, then nothing is core.  Its basic gameplay has remained true to the series since the NES days.  If you want to completely ignore the "core" games on the Wii, then fine, I don't really care.  I'll play the games by myself, and have a lot of fun doing it.

like Carnival or super mario galaxy

I have never seen anyone compare these two games like you just did.  I don't even know where to begin...



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