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palou said:
Zkuq said:
Anything that allows corporations to sue nations for changing laws is bad. That makes TTP bad, and as a European citizen, I hope TTIP suffers the same fate. I'm all for free trade, but these trade agreements seem to be mostly about other things.

Again, as I mentionned, corporations can only sue governments for being impartial, discriminatory depending on country of origin. You can ban smoking; you can't ban all European cigarette brands from competing, while allowing your own cigarette companies to prosper. You can put a carbon tax; you can't put a carbon tax on all foreign corporations, while imposing none on your own buisnesses. It's just a way to assure that trade truly stays free.

I'm pretty sure TTIP is going that way, if that makes you happy.

If that's the case, I'm OK with it. That's not what I've been hearing about TTIP so far though, but if it ends up that way, I'm fine with it. That said, rules often get interpreted pretty broadly, so even that's not entirely without problems. Actually screw that, I'm not OK with it. Protectionist laws should be handled as trade agreement violations instead of suing because of them. Private entities should not have any direct word in matters like this.