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theprof00 said:
Final-Fan said:

I don't like those those three are your top picks because: 
1.  Darwin is new and a good participant and I don't think there's a good case against him (being a fresh face with good participation buys me a little leeway if I'm on the fence on Day 1)
2.  Final-Fan is me

Stefl I don't have an issue with being on your list, although I am not convinced about it right now. 

As for my picks, Mr. P remains suspect.  Xander is someone I want to see here or dead and soon.  I don't like Baalz but I dimly recall that this has been historically true due to clashing playstyles/philosophies. 

I am not sure I want to disclose my town reads, but I will say there was one that surprised me. 

I just don't think being new and a good participant should count. Much like even though I think you're mafia, I'd hate to lynch you because I haven't seen you in so long. We need to put things like this aside if we are to get anywhere. Conversely, if darwin IS mafia, that would make him more of a threat that he's participating, would it not? Considering that the town, and yourself was willing to lynch a lurker, xander.

Though I agree, it is hard to put feelings aside. And while darwin seems like a cool dude, that doesn't lessen my opinion that I think he's actively defending stefl with stefl's own words.

Just to be clear, I'm not saying we should cut him slack for the entire game, but for Day 1, when we have the worst information and when it is most sad to kill a new player. 

And yes, mafia that are town leaders are obviously more dangerous, but on the other hand mafia that talk a lot but aren't in a leadership position can end up being useful after the flip.  Really, I guess you could say that they are just anti-townies with equivalent negative value to townies' positive value who participate, give good input, etc.  Lurkers being the least positive or least negative, except that lurker townies can have negative value while lurker mafia don't have positive value.  So I guess the inversion would be either inexact or displaced along the axis. 



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