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pokoko said:
Alkibiádēs said:

Already trying to downplay I see? Splatoon on the go and Pokémon Stars will probably boost sales of the Switch more than Zelda ever could. Especially in Japan, which is Nintendo's biggest market. I can see Splatoon selling 10 million plus copies if the Japanese 3DS owners all make the switch to the Switch.There's also that new IP and the Retro Studios game (which might be one and the same actually) that Eurogamer mentioned.

Even the 3D Mario platformer will help the Switch more than the new Zelda game, since that won't come out for the Wii U. Not to mention the possible boost the Mario franchise will get from the smarthphone game Super Mario Run. And 3D Mario is bigger than Zelda anyway. 

If this line-up is true, I'm buying pretty much everything. It still depends on how much new content Splatoon and Mario Kart 8.5 have though, but it looks likely that I will sell my Wii U games and rebuy them on the Switch. That Mario RPG with the invading Rabbids sounds promising, but I need to see more before I decide if it's worth a purchase. If it looks like a quality game and not some cheaply made shovelware then I will definitely buy it.

"Downplay"?  Seriously?  Detach your ego from a console that hasn't even released.  Is it not possible to discuss the launch of a video-game system from a critical perspective?  Christ.

And, yes, I'm sure you're buying everything but I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about the people who skipped the Wii U and are outside Nintendo's current ecosystem, hence my use of the term "non-faithful".

Yes downplay. Detach your anti-Nintendo bias from your ego once, do us all a favour.

Mainline Pokémon, The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, a 3D Mario platformer, Mario RPG: The Invasion of the Rabbids and Pikmin 4 in the first year of any console would be great - never mind a Nintendo console. Sprinkle a couple of remasters on top of that like Splatoon and Mario Kart and you have a very strong line-up of games that cater to pretty much everyone. Namely an action adventure game, some RPGs, a real time strategy game, a 3D platformer, an online third person shooter and a racer. 

For the people who are outside Nintendo's current ecosystem Mario Kart and Splatoon will be brand new titles, something which you seem to ignore. Just because they didn't buy a Wii U doesn't mean they're not interested in those games. There are many 3DS owners who never bought a Wii U for instance (sales for Super Mario 3D Land are about twice as high as the sales of Super Mario 3D World).

The Wii U had a terrible first year in comparison: Nintendoland (not nearly as succesful as Wii Sports was), New Super Mario Bros. U (it looks just like the Wii version, but in HD), Wii Fit U (the Wii demographic had already moved on, unbeknownst to Nintendo),, The Wonderful 101 (obscure niche game), The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD (a remaster of a GC game), Game & Wario (shovelware),  and Pikmin 3. I'm not counting Super Mario 3D World as that would be the beginning of the second year for the Wii U.

The only games I "bought" from that list are The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD (never played the original) and Pikmin 3 (I got it for free during the Mario Kart 8 deal). That's quite telling, don't you think? Even a hardcore Nintendofan like me could only find two Nintendo games to buy during the Wii U's first year... I also bought Rayman Legends and Batman: Arkham City, but I'm strictly talking about Nintendo's support here. The Switch will have third party support of its own at launch, no doubt about that.

Why would the people outside of Nintendo's current ecosystem only care about Zelda and not the other games? On what is that based? Your bias that only Zelda could appeal to non-Nintendo fans I assume. I'm 100% convinved that there are more Mario and Pokémon fans who don't own a Wii U than Zelda fans who don't own a Wii U. Mario and Pokémon simply have a much broader appeal. I wouldn't be surprised if Splatoon also became a bigger franchise than Zelda this generation.



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