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Soundwave on 16 November 2016
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LurkerJ said:

Republicans won't "obstruct renovating the infrastructure" bills now, will they?

That's one major positive Trump has in his pocket already. People will see a difference being made with their eyes. "Bring back jobs" promise we'll be fulfilled, not in the way he was describing it, because those manufacturing/mining jobs are not coming back. But renovating the infrastructure will create tons of jobs.

Deporting undocumented illegal low-wage workers will increase the minimum wage naturally, the 2nd palpable positive.

He will win the 2020 elections because he'll run with a lot of positivity in the atmosphere.

I also hear foreign aid will see major cuts. There is no path for democrats in 2020, no matter how much you will disagree with Trump on everything he does.


The DNC fuck'ed so bad it's making Obama viscerally sick.

 

Every politician runs that "we need to invest in our infrastructure" line .... does it ever happen? Bush and Obama said that too. Who the hell is going to pay for that? Government run jobs is not steady career work ether, like ok a highway may need to be fixed ... and then what? The next project might be something completely different and require maybe 1/3 the workers, meaning 2/3rds of those guys are now unemployed again. Democrats can win with a more charismatic candidate that doesn't have the baggage of NAFTA tied to him/her. Clinton still beat Trump by a rather large margin in the popular vote, every 4 years the demographics shift more in their favor too (more old people die, more young people, 50% of whom are now a minority, grow older). Just run the Bernie Sanders playbook and you'll win in 4 years IMO, Sanders would have beaten Trump this time most likely because he would've held Pennslyvania/Michigan/Wisconsin and potentially also taken Ohio and Iowa where his populist message resonated. Time to embrace populist messaging ala Sanders, "middle of the road 1990s" liberalism doesn't work anymore, it doesn't excite the Democratic base (especially millenials).