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Slimebeast on 14 November 2016
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Nem said:
Slimebeast said:

Don't try to use tricks please, tricks that failed even since I'm not even American.

Just look at the issue from a European context. Should be easy since you live in the Netherlands.

What does your policy has to offer all the millions of Western guys who are under huge pressure? Who feel their own lands have already been filled with foreign hostile elements, which has both evidently weakened the economy and made the streets unsafe, while the politicans and the media have the nerve to keep blaming the Western guys for being racist, and on top of it all threatens to bring in millions of more to make it all even more perverse!

Trump's victory was extremely important, but he didn't start this glorious movement that is tired of the established politicans and media talking down to us like we were idiots. We are dedicated to keep fighting and keep working now more than ever. We believe that closing the borders is the only solution that allows society to be able to focus on integration and assimilation, in order to regain harmony and stability in society.

If the establishment decides to keep using insulting and stigmatizing rhetorics and bizarrely accusatory words like xenophobia, racism, white supremacy and fascism, they reveal how out of touch they are with reality and prove how incompetent they are at taking care of the problems (and so far the post-election analysis has been, very smug, very much superior attitude,  very vulgar, the amount of self-criticism is severely lacking. It's hard to not vomit, really) then this just makes us more determined.

Our Sweden Democrats (Swe), Fremskrittspartiet (Nor), Swiss People's Party (Sui), AfD (Ger), Party for Freedom (Holl), Front National (Fra), Dansk Folkeparti (Dk), Vlaams Belang (Bek), FPÖ (Aus), Golden Dawn (Gre), PNR (Por), Law and Justice (Pol), Slovak National Party (Slo), People's Party (Slo), Fidesz (Hun), Jobbik (Hun) will have victory after victory in parliamentary elections.

This comes back to what i said. Your pov is dangerous. You are here outloud blaming others for your problems. You say they weaken the economy. That is simply not true. You talk about them like an organised entity out to get your stuff. That is not true. Make the streets unsafe, not true again. 

This is just like saying that every black guy is a thief and we should deport them. No, this is not the kind of values a society or anyone should thrive for. 

Besides, what do you think this does? A western power blows up their homes and when they come looking for asylum you say they are evil and should go back? This will lead people to desperation. Desperate people do desperate things. THAT is dangerous.

I honestly completely disagree with you. 

Look, i don't know politics in every country. I'm more familiar with Portugal, and the party you just mentioned probably doesnt even get 1% of the votes. Doesn't even have a single deputy in the assembly nor is close to getting one. So... i dunno. Though i do know that there are opportunistic people (like Trump actually) that will try to use this alarmist rethoric to reel in guys like you. But not to worry because just like with brexit, everyone will regret it soon enough. 

You seem to be at the very opposite end of the spectrum politically than I am. I think it's just complete denial.

Just a couple of points. You even deny that they make the streets unsafe. Are you really saying that native Dutch people make the streets of the Netherlands unsafe? Because if it's not the immigrants, then it must be the Dutch. But that's just so unfair and goes against all evidence.

You also deny that refugees weaken the economy of Western nations? I don't get how somebody can say that today. Three years back in time you could still hear that kind of propaganda lies from the Swedish government and others, but today I didn't think anyone spreads such misinformation.

I shouldn't have listed that Portuguese national party because it gave you an opportunity to point out how tiny they are. Portugal is actually the most socialist country in Europe (when it comes to what people elect, about your real politiks I do not know), so it's probably not a coincidence that nationalists are weak over there.