Opinions on ps pro so far?

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SvennoJ said:

KBG29 said:

No luck with the splitter. The screen keeps flashing on and off. I was able to get it to stablize, but with both plugged in it locks it to the limits of HDMI 1.4. I hooked up just the Z9D, and it worked fine, but then when I unpluged it, and plugged in the PSVR, the sceen went back to flickering, and I couldn't get it to stop. I am using brand new HDMI 2.0 cables for every connection, so I don't know if the switch is defective, or what, but I gave up for now. After swapping cables for about an hour today, I am actually getting really good at doing it,so I may just live with it and hope a PS4 with PSVR built in comes out in the next year or two. Or maybe Sony will licences an official splitter/switch to patch their fumble.

You probably need a hdmi source duplicator, if that exists. Perhaps amps with dual hdmi will work, if each hdmi port can run with independent settings since one has to render in 1.4 and the other in 2.0a. Yet that will introduce lag to psvr depending on the amp.

Perhaps you can use the splitter if you turn the psvr unit off when you want to use 4K HDR. Kinda pointless I know, you'll still need to uplug the power cable to the processing unit.

Btw, do you still have your old ps4? Can you confirm that HDR actually works on the base ps4 and in what mode? The options are ofcourse simply grayed out on my system, but I'm curious how it is supposed to work. Does a 4K HDR tv accept 1080p HDR, or does the base ps4 somehow output a 1.4 2160p HDR signal? And how does it compare to HDR on the pro?

On HDR on PS4. It absolutly works on the base unit. It just displays the game at the oginal resolution with HDR implemented. I set the HDR and Deep Color to Automatic, and my Z9D switches to HDR mode when firing up any game that supports it. As far as quality, the colors are amazing, but the low resolution definitly shows up. I would say, OG PS4 with HDR beats PS4 Pro 4K, and PS4 Pro 4K + HDR is miles ahead of both. HDR is by far the biggest most impressive new tech in flat display tech. Without HDR, the ability to really diplay detail is not possible, and without that extra detail available, higher resolutions don't really shine the way they should. 

d21lewis said:
Finished downloading everything to both PS4s. I finally decided I'm just going to keep my PSVR connected. I only tried HDR on The Last of Us. The game already looked great in 4K so I'm just going to accept that.... for now.

Noticed a slight improvement in a couple of VR titles. Nothing life changing. I'll have to test it out more. I like the Pro and don't regret the purchase but I think most gamers will be totally fine with the Vanilla PS4 experience. I'll be jumping between both 1080p regular PlayStation and 4K Pro and it should be painless.

PlayStation's handling of cloud storage is a generation behind Xbox, btw. It's perfectly acceptable if you only have one console but, as an owner of two of each? Nope. Xbox--walk out of one room and into another. Boot up the game. The saves will sync for a couple of seconds. You continue where you left off.

On PlayStation, you have to go out of your way to save your game to the cloud (though it's done automatically, once a day, I think...). Then, if you go to another console, you have to go back to the menu and download the save to the second PS4. Then, begin your game. Much more complicated and cumbersome.

Really sucks to have to choose between HDR and VR. I have decided I will just switch HDMI's  when I want to play VR. I watch a lot of TV and Movies, so the expanded color range and HDR is absolutly vital to me. I also don't have an XBO or any other device hooked up that can display this, so the PS4 has to display it's best first and foremost.

I will also be switching between PS4 Pro and PS4. I have the OG PS4 in the office (32" 1080p Display), the PS4 1200 unit in the bedroom (43" 4K Display), and the Pro in the living room (75" 4K HDR Display). In all honesty, PS4 is perfectly fine on the 32" and 43" screens. Once you get up to 75" though, the Pro is absolutly required. 1080p at 75" is really starting to hurt.

 As for the Cloud Storage, you are absolutly right. PlayStation needs to switch to storing directly to the cloud, and backing up to the system storage, or save simultaniously to system and cloud like World of Final Fantasy does. It really sucks to get done playing something early in the day, and then want to hope back to it in bed just to see you can't play because it is an old save, and you didn't manually upload it to the cloud.

Kwaidd said:
I'm curious as to why current ps4 users would feel that the investment into a pro would be so worthwhile. If one doesn't have a ps4 and is in the market for that machine, then of course it would make sense to get the pro model. But for those that paid msrp on the original, are now paying basically new box $ that is a half gen step up, and will undoubtedly pay full msrp on the next gen ps when it releases in the not so distant future....what is the allure? I guess if ya got the cash a plenty, why not?...but seems like quite the investment for a half step. So, for those people, I'd like to hear your thoughts once you've had a chance to play the machine for a bit and get a feel for if the upgrade was worth the expense. Perhaps it will be some real quality time with the games before the answer becomes clear? Looking fwd to your critique D21! Edit - you beat me by 12 min D21. I started the post and had to walk away for customers and to close up shop and came back to your answer. =p

As a day one buyer of both PS4 and PS4 Pro, I think the value depends on a lot of factors. For me personally, I have wanted to move to 4K for about 4 years now, but I have not see any reason. Once the Pro was announced, and I saw the Sony Z9D, I saw the tech that showed me a total shift in technology. After getting my 75" Z9D, I was absolutly sure I could not go wrong with the PS4 Pro. At 75" 1080p is so stretched out, that it starts to look really take a hit, and 720p pretty much looks like SD again. So for me, moving to the 75" Z9D made the Pro an absolute neccessity.

I think it is great that we have the option to upgrade within the generation now. I would not call the Pro a half step. Pro is really only about 1/4 of the leap we typically see between generations. Even by  2020, the tech for a true gnerational leap will be well out of hand. With the knowledge of where tech is going, I have absoltuly no problem upgrading on a 2 or 3 year cycle, in which the gains are only marginal. I understand now, that the leaps we saw each 6 year between PS1, PS2, and PS3 are never going to happen, again. I don't want to wait until ~2024 when we will have 20TF APU's, 128GB of HBM RAM, and 4TB SSD's in a $400 box which would be equal to the advances we saw between previous generations.  

For now PS4 Pro offers a lot off great new technologies, that we would have never seen if this in gen upgrade never occured. The move to SATA III, the new Wireless AC, Direct USB connected controllers, Bluetooth v4.0, an extra USB port in the back, and HDMI 2.0 + HDCP 2.2 is well worth the upgrade to me. I am absolutly thrilled that I can get this through PlayStation without having to wait 3 - 4 more years, and or switch to another platform for parts of my entertainment desires.

Going forward, I would love to see another PS4 model in 2018, built on 10nm tech, with a slight boost in performance, UHD Blu-ray support, and PSVR tech built in. Another PS4 in 2020, built on 7nm tech again doubling the power of the PS4 Pro, would be something I would by as well. These minor performance upgrades are definitly not for everyone, but with the advances they make for 4K displays, and VR, they are absolutly worth it, and for me, a much bigger value that having a phone on contract that costs even more, and does so much less.