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JEMC said:
onionberry said:

Dear, everything  you said, I know, I have to explain that to him but he would not understand. Other thing, I'm talking about efficiency when you compare pascal with amd's old architecture on the ps4 and xbox. put two gpus with the same power, one from amd's old architecture and one from Nvidia's new architecture, and the new one from nvidia is going to have an advantage in terms of efficiency and power consumption. 

You're the one that used those figures and then compared them with the Switch .

And sure, Nvidia is more efficient than AMD, but we're talking about a device that will consume 15, maybe up to 20W in a best case scenario while the competing machines (PS4 Slim & XboxOne S) use more than 3x that power and are build in the same manufacturing process. Not even Nvidia is that efficient.

And let's not forget that, while Maxwell or Pascal can do certain tasks better than AMD's Tahiti, the latest can also do certain tasks better than what Nvidia has.

all i'm trying to say is, we don't have the specs, as a matter of fact we don't have the actual architecture, could be pascal could be volta and we don't know the optimization. So the "switch is weak and underpowered" statement is not fair just yet, weaker than the ps4 or xbox, maybe, but how weak? also, we are talking about a tablet here (form factor and ignoring the dock) and that's other thing, the dock could have a high performance mode or something like that.