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pokoko on 10 November 2016
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Ouroboros24 said:
pokoko said:
Stop whining about "Hollywood". The Republican party is just as eager to trot out celebrities as anyone else. They had an actor I don't even know speak at the RNC this year. Stop looking for scapegoats.

You know what's funny?  I can easily write about how it was the republican's fault if Hillary had won.  This thread could have easily gone "Republican's, look what you've done."  And then it would list a few of the things the republicans did that made hillary win.  I'm really not placing a scapegoat.  I'm just trying to make a point that is valid enough or something that could be discussed.   In my opinion, the way things are is because of small things that happened to get us here.  At least for this thread, I wanna place "Hollywood" as the central theme.  I guess I'm trying to say I don't try to lean to either side.  I believe in South Park when they say it's either a Turd Sandwich or a Douche.  This time I think the Douche won.  Here is my rebuttal:

Yes, true the Reps could have easily trot out their celebrities, but it wouldn't have been as impactful as the ones voting democrat.  Robert Downey jr. vs Charles in charge.  We can say that the overall side of Hollywood was with democrats and they told their fans to do the same.  Look at all the twitter feeds of all the celebrities who took Hillary's side.  While I'm sure Trump had his own celebrity backers, the Hillary community far outnumbered Trump.  By number and quality.  I'm sure Tom hanks is a trump guy.  They voiced it throughout all other media and made it a scare tactic if Trump won.  Instead, they were overconfident and assumed that the worst could never happen.  They made the same mistake the GOP made when Trump came on to the scene.  That was another blunder.  They couldn't see how far a reach Trump truly had and the competence he kept hidden under his crazy ass tirades.

It's still looking for a scapegoat and I'd find it meaningless either way.  They're just people who voiced their opinion, just like millions of other people.  If there are those out there who are influenced by that, it is their own fault.  It's nothing but noise.

It's like screaming that this is all the fault of bloggers who wrote about politics, or twitter users who retweeted unsourced "news" constantly.

If anything, you should be complaining about the actual problem of lobbyist who directly control votes in the Senate.

d21lewis said:

I'm going to say this:

I'm black. Watching Hilary pander to black people was cringeworthy. I understand she was trying to win the demographic but goddam. It was an insult to our intelligence. Watching her hang out with Mary J Blogs, garner support from Jay Z, and speak on "black issues"? I said to myself, just be consistent and deliver a focused message and you'll be fine. She was trying to be all things to all people and it just came across as fake.

 

I still voted for her but I felt dirty afterwords.

Did you see the picture of her sitting awkwardly in a black church while the people around her were singing?  It was ridiculous.  Absolutely no one is fooled by that.  

Of course, Trump hanging around with immigrants and working class white people is also ridiculous.  These are people he'd normally step on without a second thought.