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Zkuq said:
Xen said:

...and the farther you push people, the more you call them stupid without reason, the deeper you will entrench them in their standing. Finally, some logic from these forums.

I am more disgusted by the 18-25 people vote breakdown. Clearly people cannot think for themselves or analyze given patterns - a manipulative politician vs a clown who would have to settle down once he's in - and they still choose a manipulative politician because "oh no, he said bad things about x, y, z, oh that is so uncool dude".

I am disgusted to be in the last year of that demographic.

This is a very contradictory post, because it essentially says that calling people is stupid, and then it essentially calls young people stupid for having a differing opinion. Do you have to be unable to think for yourself or analyze things to be able to vote for Clinton? Also calling Clinton manipulative and not calling Trump manipulative too sounds just wrong to me. He's a populist, so he's almost by definition manipulative.

I am not straight up calling people stupid, though - unlike "you are stupid if you vote for x", which was a popular thing to say, I present some argument (even if I could present lots more). And yes, populism is indeed by nature manipulative. However, it is very easy to exploit populist ideas - it requires no invention and is basically taking outrageous ideas that already exist and playing to them (with passion). It is more difficult to reinvent yourself with every new wind in politics like Clinton did. I understand she's been in the field for a while, but that is what I think she does - with examples such as this : http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jun/17/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-change-position-same-sex-marriage/