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Machiavellian on 03 November 2016
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outlawauron said:
Machiavellian said:

How exactly have the insurance companies benefited from the ACA when they say they are not making money and leaving the marketplace..  It really cannot work both ways.  Do not forget the government is not just made of up the federal but also the states and how many of those Republican states have tried to underfund the ACA.  Instead of giving it a chance to succeed they have done did everything they could to make it not work.  Not because it is a bad plan but because it was put into place by a president they have tried to undermine since he came into Office.

In the original ACA, the single payer was in their but of course getting that through congress was never going to happen for the first pass.

Big companies benefitted with ACA because they were promised assistance with the government (which has largley fallen through) and were millions of new customers. As far as undercutting or trying to replace ACA, I think you're being disingenious if you believe that Obama is the only reason it was opposed. It was an unpopular bill at the time and even more unpopular as time passes.

No I am not being disingenuous.  Obama being the main and primary reason the ACA has received a lot of flak and resistance from Republicans is based on how they have tried to first make him a one term president and when losing that have tried to make him a bad president by doing nothing.  There are countless examples where Republicans have introduced bills and where they have then reverse their vote because Obama approved it.  If it made Obama look good no matter how many Americans it helped, Republicans would vote against it.

As for the ACA, a good deal of the ACA is actually from Republicans including the Mit Romey plan he tried to introduce during his run for the presidency.  The ACA is actually a Republican ideal not Democrat.  Hell, most of the Republicans during the time the Bill was introduced were supported and passed the Bill.  The part of the bill that require all Americans to have insurance is a Republican suggesting to fund the bill.  The only real, issue that Republican did not like about the bill that passed from the senate revision is on funding abortion.