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bigtakilla on 24 October 2016
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spemanig said:
bigtakilla said:

That would mean that 

A: The hardcore crowd will buy 2 games, one they can play 4k on, and one the can play at 720p. Not likely

 

B: The casual fanbase would have to want these 60 dollar experiences and a console that costs whatever. I hope they keep the console's price down if this is the case.

 

Or C: Expect that people are going to choose this on the NS because it's portable... Which I really don't see that happening either.

 

Assuming they did everything you wrote (celebs in commercials, every multiplat commercial shows someone with a NS) it just might have a big enough impact. But I'm simply not sure how much appeal this is going to have with the spec heads, and the shooter crowds. It will also have everything to do with how many of these consoled Nintendo can get in peoples hands day 1. It's certainly gonna be an uphill battle with the Pro and Scorpio either already out or on its heels.

Well I'm not talking about enthusiast gamers at all. I'm not expecting anyone to buy two versions of third party games. I'm talking about casuals, who already buy $60 games on other consoles. When I say casuals, I mean your typical gamer who only buys 1-3 games a year. People who play video games asa casual past time.

I'm expecting B and C to happen, and I don't even thing that up for debate at this point. The teaser has been up for 3 day and has already been seen 16m+ times. The intrest for a portable console is there. I don't think I can be any more clear than with my laptop commercial. It's not so much portability as it is flexibility. It just the idea of not being tethered to something that's valuable to a lot of people, as is proven by the popularization of laptops. Most people don't value power as long as it meets a certain thresh hold. Laptops reached that threshhold years ago, and the Switch finally reached it by being the first commercial portable HD console from one of the big three. Most people are going to play a game like Skyrim on their Switch in HD and not be able to see a noticeable enough difference for it to matter, and that's all that counts. Like I said, I think most people are seriously misunderstanding how much the average person values convenience over fidelity.

Also, when I said actors, I didn't mean celebrities. I just mean the people in the commercials. I think what many people don't seem to understand is just how tiny the demographic of hardcore gamers there are in comparison to casual gamers. Video games aren't niche anymore. If a game is selling to over a million people, most of that game was sold to casuals. Even something that might seem niche like a JRPG, most of them are probably casual. My best friend is a huge Persona fan, and he is the very definition of a casual gamer. This is meant to appeal to people like that.

The Pro and Scorpio aren't really an issue for the Switch because they have nothing on its angle. Like I said, no one who likes laptops cares about how much more powerful desktops are. If they can browse social media without a problem, that's all they care about. Similarly with Switch, if someone plays Call of Duty every year, and can play the newest game in HD on their Switch and online with their friend, that's all they'll care about.

And if the Switch is $249 like I am praying it will be, I'm confident you will have a serious case of Wii-syndrom where many people who already own a PS4/XBO will buy a Switch as well just because the price is so low. If that happens, you will have real situations where many people will have friends who also own Switches, meaning that when a multiplayer game is on both Switch and XBO or PS4, they'll have a real incentive to buy the Switch version knowing that they can play with their friends, play without paying for online, and be able to have the flexibility to play the game where ever they want.

If the Switch is $249 and has good western third party support, it is absolutely going to easily decimate the PS4 and XBO going forward without a doubt in my mind. If it's $300 with that support, it's going to compete very well against them and I still think it will cream them. If it doesn't have good western support, it's in some serious trouble. The portability only shines bright when applied to multiplats. Playing exclusive games wherever you want when there's nothing to compare them to on other playforms isn't what's valuable - playing almost anything that comes out wherever you want is. It's the difference between saying that you can play Mario on your lunch breaks or saying that you can play GTA V on your lunch breaks.

I agree whole heartedly. It is going to be price that makes this sink or swim. I also believe it will have a lot to do with third parties. Can the Switch even get half the support as the PS4 and Xbone? I remain skeptical, but hopefully it will. Because if people can play GTA V on a lunch break, that's awesome, but if it doesn't play GTA VI it isn't gonna take long for people to jump ship. Also, I'm concerned with development issues not only in power, but architecture. Not entirely sure what the Switches architecture is, or how easy it will be to port games, but will devs even bother with how many PS4s and Xbones will be in houses by the time NS makes it to the scene. We already know that Mass Effect will not be coming to NS, and Square-Enix said they have no plans of bringing Final Fantasy to NS.