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Eagle367 said:
Final-Fan said:

AA was just an example.  I thought that was clear.  You're overreacting. 

Let me clarify my original intent:  I took your assertion "religion does not take away my individuality" as more than just as a personal claim only applying to you yourself.  I thought you meant it more broadly, as "religion does not take away a person's individuality" with yourself as the case in point.  I spoke to this claim by bringing up the AA example, which seems to be to pretty clearly involve submitting their own willpower to their conception of God.  I definitely did not mean that you were an alcoholic or had similar problems.  If you meant your statement as purely personal and not speaking for religion in general or anyone else's religion than your own personal and solely individual experience, then since I don't know you outside of these few posts there's not much I can say on that subject.  The degree to which religion reduces a person's independence varies greatly by the religion and by the individual.  Many cults, for example, severely reduce people's individuality to weld them into the cult more firmly. 

In what way did you think I was being "self-righteous"?  And what do you mean by "pin everything on religion"? 

Self-righteous as in believing you are so intelligent and always right. Like you have a higher intellect than religious people. "Pin everything on religion" is self explanatory. you blame war terrorism stupidity wierd rituals personal thinking and evaluations decisions of individuals all on religion. What else is there to say

What else is there to say?  That you are wrong.  That you are making an assumption about my views based on the fact that I am disagreeing with you, therefore I am a militant atheist who thinks religion is the cause of all evil in the world, or whatever the hell it is you think.  Nothing in this thread could possibly lead you to rationally conclude that I blame war on religion.  I defy you to show otherwise.  (You may look anywhere on these forums, not just this thread, for the purpose of showing the basis for your conclusion that I think war is usually caused by religion.)

I think I'm right?  Well, yes, I do.  So do you.  And if it turns out I'm wrong, then I change my mind and then I'm also right.  Do you? 



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