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Wyrdness said:
Miyamotoo said:

"Anything with platforming is a Mario platformer"!? Lol, I talking about Mario 2D platform game not about any platform game. This is Mario 2D platform game where you building levels or play levels of other players. Regardles "building levels or play levels of other players", Mario Maker is still Mario 2D platform game so cant be new IP. And yes, it's far more 2D Mario spinoff than new IP. Super Mario Maker is existing IP (2D Mario platformer) with just new mechanic (building levels or play levels of other players), not new IP. Like I wrote, new IPs are games like Splatoon, Xenoblade, Code Name: S.T.E.A.M...not 2D Mario platformer "with  building levels or play levels of other players".

No that's flawed logic because Paper Mario and the M&L games have 2d platforming as well, it's a new IP that is focused on creation as I said they just used Mario for the first incarnation and in future other IPs will no doubt be touched on as it's already hinted at.

Paper Mario is Mario RPG, Paper Mario was much more different than 2D Mario and 3D Mario games but despite that I am not sure if I called Paper Mario completely new IP. While Mario Maker is basicly mix of all 2D Mario platform games with mehanic of "building levels or play levels of other players", so Super Mario Maker cant be relly called completly new IP like Splatoon for instance.

We can agree that we disagree, I relly dont want to spend more time on this arguing beacuse we finaly having NX reveal today. :)