Nintendo and Sony have to bring out Handheld/Phone hybrids in 2017.

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potato_hamster said:

You have also yet to demonstrate that this device will sell. Just because 200 million people bought an NDS or a PSP doesn't mean they'll buy whatever phone you're hawking. That was a decade ago. Based on your same logic, 100 million people would be happy to buy a SD console with a remote for a controller today because 100 million people bought a Wii. Markets change. You have not demonstrated that 200 million people want a gaming phone today.

Also, you keep harping on the price it takes to make an iPhone (which is just a third party estimate, you're not getting these numbers from Apple), but fail to take into account it only costs that little to make because of the vast volume that Apple sells. They're buying from companies at razor thin margins because of the volume they buy. A new player would not be able to get such low margins until they buy at the volume Apple buys at. Then again, you're just looking at the cost of the hardware itself, and ignoring the cost to manufacture, package and ship the phone, as well as the research and development cost to actually develop the phone itself. This can significantly increase the true cost per unit of a phone. Care to take a gander on how much additional R+D it would cost to develop your gaming phone? How about how much more expensive it would be to manufacture the phone? How about the additional cost in educating the public on your new gaming phone? These are all things you need to know if you're going to nail down how much a device like this should actually costs, because for all anyone knows a gaming iPhone 7 might cost twice as much per unit than a regular iPhone 7.

Right now you're assuming it doesn't because.... well it's inconvenient for you, and you can't possibly know that.

Want a know a much better idea that's not only plausible, it might actually work? A Nintendo branded phone case with built in controller. Think a 3DS clam shell you slide your iPhone into. Nintendo published iPhone games all support the Nintendo case. Much more plausible. Far less risk. Far less expensive. There is no need for Sony or Nintendo or anyone to make a new phone to tap into the mobile market.

This is nowhere near the ball park of thinking people would buy an SD console with a remote. This is saying people will buy a phone that can play their entire library of PS4 titles, and allow full access to PSN and online gaming via 4G. This is something the market has never had the opertunity to experience, and the natural evolution of a once, very popular gaming market that was called handheld gaming. This is the addition of a features both Sony and Nintendo bypassed with 3DS and Vita, and totally killed a market the was rapidly growing.

As for cost. I already said it would be more expensive to manufacture than the iPhone 7, and yes probably close to twice as much. However, neither Sony, nor Nintendo have ever been about running a mass profit business, they have always been about bringing the joy of gaming to the largest market possible, and reinvesting profits back into the software and experiences. That is why even if the device cost $350 to manufacture compared to the $225 of an iPhone, the actual consumer price would be $400, as opposed to the outragious $650 price tag of the base iPhone 7.

Like I said above. Both companies would be profitable, because owning the platform leads to massive profits through royalties. It is the same way that a small market like game consoles can be so profitable when it is so small compaiered to Mac or Windows.

On your idea about a shell that parteners with a phone. That could very well work. It could be the trojan horse peripheral that leads to a gaming phone in the future. It we could get something like that with full industry backing, and full support of either Nintedo or Sony, then I would be all for it.