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nanzano said:
UltimateGamer1982 said:

Cause it is used and only being resold by third party sellers. It shouldn't be counted in lists as the initial sale was made long ago by the original owner. It may be used, but it's still a ps4, which is all that matters this gen. 

 

Thats bad for microsoft as the S is a really great console. But for almost $500, vs a used ps4 for half the price, it's easy to see. 

Used items are not counted in the ranking unless it is a new thing.

So why are they listing "ps4 standalone"? Those don't come with games and you haven't been able to buy a ps4 without a game since 2014. im confused.