Nintendo and Sony have to bring out Handheld/Phone hybrids in 2017.

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BasilZero said:

KBG29 said:

Not sure how devices that would sell Vita and WiiU lifetime sales every 12 months on a bad year, would shed a fantastic light on those platforms sales?

 

Okay , I see now what this is - this is satire right?

 

A nintendo or a Sony handheld/hybrid selling WiiU/Vita life time numbers in a year? MS has a higher chance of making a profit with Nokia...oh wait.

I don't see where anyone could get the idea that a Vita or 3DS phone would sell less than the PS4 is currently. If today Nintendo announced a 4G New 3DS in Japan with Calling and Texting, it would sell Millions of units on lunch, and sell over a million units a month in Japan alone the whole first year. 

People have already bought 60 million 3DSs without mobile network support. That number would be multiple times greater if they had mobile network support.

ArchangelMadzz said:

KBG29 said:

Not sure how devices that would sell Vita and WiiU lifetime sales every 12 months on a bad year, would shed a fantastic light on those platforms sales?

Xperia Play was not a PlayStation device. It was a bastard product at the end of a bad relationship with Ericsson. Sony never wanted anything to do with it. It had no access to PlayStation Network or the PlayStation Store propper, and it never recievced any software from World Wide Studios. It was an under speced, non supported product, and is not even indicitive of what a PlayStation Phone could do in the market. 

If they made this product, it would be a bigger seller, and bigger money maker than the PS4 itself. Kaz is interested, he has said the mobile space needs an innovative product, and is working hard to unifiy Sony under the PlayStation OS, and the PlayStation Network. He just has to convience the board to fold Sony Mobile into Sony Interactive Entertainment. With SCI making up the majority of profits at Sony, it will be easier and easier to do as time goes on.

It doesn't matter, because it was doomed to failure. 

A sony smartphone/handeld would not do well. People don't want to change from iPhones and Samsungs to a playstation phone device. They aren't going to up and change everything for it. People like playstation games so they're happy buying a PS4 to do it, they don't have to replace anything. Also this phone would be more expensive than a PS4, if it isn't it wont be a good/powerful phone. That's insanity. 

Of course a bastard product was doomed to fail. How could it ever have succeeded? If Apple put out an iPhone that with physical buttons, that was two gens behind the current iphone, had its own special store with no access to the app store propper, and recieved no support from developers, it would end up the same. Putting 5% effort behind something, then saying, "see people don't want this", is rubbish. 

I am not saying that the 1.5 billion smartphone buyers would suddenly switch over to PlayStation and Nintendo phones. It would obviously be a niche market, and probably never get much more than 250M active user between the two, but those 250M users would be an extreamly profitable niche, just as the niche of PS4, XBO, WiiU, 3DS, and Vita users are highly profitable.

As for price, it would depend on the business model. Iphone 7 only costs $225 to build, PS4 cost $381 to build at launch, however, iPhone 7 sells for $649, and PS4 sold for $399. So, if Sony wanted to make PlayStation Phone competitive to iPhone 7, they could easily sell it at the same price as PS4, in fact if they wanted to make it even more powerful than iPhone 7, they could still sell it for $399 and make a profit on every unit sold. A $649 PlayStation Phone would be a beast of a unit, and make massive profits on hardware alone, plus Sony would make massive profits on sales and advertising through PlayStation Store.