More NX Hybrid + Two console idea confirmation?(video)

[Miyamotoo]

JustBeingReal said:

Miyamotoo said:

His statement definitely isn't clear.

It is, not his fault you have problems understanding English.

Yup, thats why I can buy PS4 Slim and Vita for $299, oh wait..

Do those share the same processing architecture? No they don't, Vita uses older tech that is made in much smaller volume than what would be required for system like I'm writing about, it would drive costs down significantly.

Your example isn't valid because of this fact, making your point moot.

Its almost certain that Zelda BotW will be NX launch title. I specifically said comparing between two Nintendo platforms for 3rd party sales, not comparing Nintendo platform and PS/MS platform, so you can compare sales of 3rd party games on Wii and GC for instance. Why PS4 has much better sales of 3rd party games than XB1, because twice bigger install base, that's my point. Who talking about dominating in 3rd party sales, lol!? I am just saying NX will have better sales of 3rd party games than worst selling Nintendo console ever (WiiU), because system will be much more popular and bigger instal base.

I was pretty sure that's what you wrote a few pages back, if not then my bad, I made a mistake there.

You're wording isn't clearly written, what you put read like you were saying that NX would sell more 3rd party games than PS4 and XB1, so you didn't mean that, fair enough, no need to keep going over that, but it's not a given that BOTW will automatically move masses of units of NX and sell more on that system, considering that many people probably already bought a Wii U to play the game it's not likely Zelda will drive sales on NX and it's also a core Nintendo game, not something that appeals to many that buy 3rd party games.

Nintendo needs to lure people who buy 3rd party to their systems in order to grow where they can and Zelda isn't going to be the game to do that, more likely it would be new IP that are made for that audience, then those people may decide to try other core Nintendo games, but they need fresh reasons to play Nintendo.

Emily from time to time give us some true leaks, SMD didn't give us nothing from that leak from one source at beginning of year, he had just one source and he lost it back then, from then he is just saying his opinions that are very often very unrealistic, like NX Polaris based and PS4 Pro killer.

I've never seen a legit leak from Emily, now if this was someone like Shinobi602 I can at least say he leaked Horizon, Days Gone and if I did further research he's probably released information about a bunch of other games that no one else has talked about before him, but Emily doesn't have that level of prestige, least of all to the point where she's proven she could really know about a completely new dedicated gaming platform.

Dave's information gels with Nintendo's past track record of making hardware as far as the vendor goes and BTW no he didn't say that NX would be a PS4 Pro beater in processing performance, Polaris based yeah, which makes sense given it's affordability and efficiency for console use.

Of Course they piggybacking and that they confirmed Eurogamer when they heard same thing. New Tegra can also be treated like industry leading chip and can easily be used for console space, especially for hybrid.

Piggybacking isn't providing an original leak, what I'm saying is that initial information seems to have come from the same place and it doesn't make any logical sense.

Tegra hasn't been used in the dedicated gaming device space, AMD are the industry leaders there.

Sure Tegra would be good, but Parker doesn't compare to modern consoles graphically, nore is it made for gaming, X1 is old and even less capable and neither of those are able to really run demanding 3rd party games, which Nintendo needs to sell hardware in any kind of meaningful way.

Morpheus tablet is just one new tablet and rearly who know about it, today you have on hundreds tablets on market, that cant be compared with new Nintendo dedicated gaming device at all.

Morphus is visually identical to Eurogamer's diagrams of NX, loads of people know about the Morphus now because of this whole NX comparison and the concept hasn'r resulted in a product that is blowing up in sales, even though it's been demo'ed well by the creators.

Of course Morphus can be compared to what Eurogamer claims NX is, it's an identical layout of hardware, tablet, dockable and it has detachable controllers.

Most likely Eurogamer were told that design is what NX looks like, the source could definitely have made mistakes or just be plain lying about how the system looks and works.

Nvidia haven't even said they're doing any business with a console manufacturer, it would be information that investors would need to know as it's big business, though I guess you're just going to use the argument that it would have to be under NDA, which is nonsense, because that kind of information isn't something that can be held back from the people that effect your companies value.

Lol, I dont have any problems to understand english, it's very obvious he is not so certain with his wording and have hard time explaining concept, and fact that people totally different interpreted his words proves that, one are saying this confirmation of hybrid and one are saying that he talking about separate handheld and separate console.

So you saying if they using same arhitecture cost will be 50% down!? Thats not true at all. Everything you wrote is not valid and you dont have not single fact, you make just your assumption that don't sound realistic at all.  Home console of power of PS4 and separate handheld together for $299 that will sell with profit with that price, is not realistic at all to expect that.

My words are very clear, you quote my first post where I talk about Wii U and NX 3rd party not about PS4/XB1, also I wrote few post ago about 3rd party sales: "just for record I talking about Wii U and NX, not about NX and PS4 or XB1 for instance". Of Course that NX will not sell even near XB1 numbers of 3rd party games.

No, actually it's given that great new Zelda, that is one most hyped Nintendo games ever, that easily won E3, like launch title for new Nintendo console, will move alone milion's of console. Wii U was mostly bought by hardcore Nintendo fans, and they will most likely bought Zelda on NX. Think about Zelda TP for GC and Wii. Zelda also attracts people that for instance don't like other Nintendo games. Like wrote, Zelda BotW is incompatible much stronger than any game Wii U had in its whole 1st year, and of course that Zelda BotW will not be only strong launch game.

Nintendo dont aiming to compete directly with NX with PS4/XB1 and for 3rd party, they aiming casuals, mobile users who want upgrade, Nintendo fans of course, and to be second console for PS4/XB1 owners, of course that nobody will buy NX or any Nintendo console to play 3rd party games on 1st place.

 

I stand that Emily from time to time give us some true leaks, SMD didn't have nothing from beginning of year when he lost source, after that he just saying his assumptions and thinking. He talked that NX will be stronger than PS4 and even maybe can be compete with PS4 Pro. Also his article proves that he dont have any info that he is just assuming and giving his opinion. https://arcadegirl64.wordpress.com/2016/10/08/i-asked-youtube-personality-supermetaldave64-why-he-disagrees-with-my-nx-rumors/

Even if infos are from same source (but Eurogamer specifically said they confirmed their info from several different sources), fact that all reliable sources confirmed Eurogamer article, means they are certain in those infos and their own sources. And how no one single relible source did not come out and said Eurogamer article isnt true, instead we got just confirmations from multiple sources.

 

So what, Tegra can again be treated like industry leading chip. WSJ said "cutting edge technology" not technology with most power,  they basilcy talked about modern tehnology, that could be easily be Tegra X2. And offcourse same that WSJ confirmed Eurogamer article, so its obvious thats Nvidia.

Of Course that Morpheus will not sell great because it just another tablet on market with hundred of tablets available and with every day with new one coming out, most of consumers never heard specifically about Morpheus. We are here talking about new dedicated Nintendo console, not just about just onother tablet on very crowded market, you cant compare that at all. Only similarity with NX are detachable controllers, nothing more. Comparing Morpheus tablet with NX is similar like comparing Steam machine with XB1/PS4, even worse example because much more people are aware of Steam machine than Morpheus tablet.

 

Offcoures that EG could be wrong, but with all confirmations that seems not likely.

Nvidia actually can't say investitor nothing if are under specific NDA (for instance Nintendo asked that they basicly say nothing until they revile NX), and we know that NX NDA is very strong, still not one single official confirmation.