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JustBeingReal said:

Miyamotoo said:

 

Yes there is reason to think he chosen words poorly because it's very obvious he has hard time explaining whole concept, and fact that people are not sure what exactly he meant also proves that.

That's not an argument, you're not providing any evidence to support your statement, in fact it's just your opinion.

Boogie doesn't have a hard time explaining the concept, he says clearly there's a handheld that plays a form of the game and a console which plays the game, simple.

The only people that are having a hard time with this are those that are trying to link Boogie's statements to tie in with the Eurogamer claims.

No, you cant make home console of PS4 level of power packed with standalone handheld and sell it for $299 with profit.

Actually it's easy with current tech, for example an AMD RX 460 can be bought at retail for only $110 and it packs in better performance than the PS4, Nintendo would pay way less than that for that GPU, likely under half the price.

The RX 460 only has 14CUs, but because it can be clocked much faster than PS4's GPU it can produce much more performance, using a part with a smaller area of die space, that makes for significant savings.

A handheld device using a shrunk down version of that chipset (fewer CUs, like 3 clocked 1100Mhz), designed for a mobile form factor that fits in your pocket would be cheap and processing requirements could be kept low because we're only talking about a device that runs a very small fraction of the bigger console brother in the system.

The handheld would be cheap to produce.

More popular console with bigger instal base will have better sales of games, logical, thats was my point.

This assumes that NX will become more popular right out of the gate, with no evidence to back it up.

It relies on Nintendo making their own software that attracts that audience (something Nintendo haven't done for ages), your basically assuming that NX will be able to do something that even the Wii U couldn't do just because it's supposedly going to sell like hotcakes.

FYI selling to a big install base doesn't guarantee 3rd party games will sell on that platform, having a product that the audience that buys 3rd party titles will be interested in is required, along with games that interest those people and giving everything that the competition offers to pull their attention to this Nintendo system.

There's nothing logical in your assumptions.

I wouldn't put Bogie and SMD with Emily and some other sources, not to mention Eurogamer, WSJ and IGN. Bogie is not know like someone who has sources, he heard something and he talked about it, if got real information from real source we dont know, but apparently he is usually honest. SMD don't have any source, he just posting his opinions, he had real source but lost it when basically post everything (including marketing budget, lol) that was told to him. Emily definitely have some sources, but of course is not true everything she says. Eurogamer, WSJ and IGN have incompatible much better connections and better sources in industry, so they are definitely much more reliable and more serious about those matters than Emily, not to mention Bogie and SMD.

Well Emiy hasn't been known to be anything more than a person that just repackages leaks others already talked about, SMD was apparently approached by Nintendo because the information he originally divulged came from someone legit and he's used logic to make some educated guesses since.

That person that gave Dave information said it was fine for Dave to talk about the information they gave him.

Everytime I've seen people claim Emily is legit and they're asked to provide examples of this legitimacy they provide a source actually came from someone else first. Eurogamer has been wrong about 3DS before, when the system ended up using but Eurogamer acted like Nvidia was the final vendor and they were convinced they would end up being a part of the system, they didn't even talk about the major selling point of the system being 3D from what I understand until others did.

Boogie was acting on information that someone he believes could be legit gave him.

As I posted here earlier Boogie has stated that he was told his info by someone he can't verify, but he has been invited to all manner of gaming events by tonnes of companies, just like other big Youtubers and he would be in a position to find out information from developers if they decided to talk. I'm pretty sure Boogie has loads of friends in the development community.


WSJ and the others all seem to have piggybacked off of the Eurogamer article, they may claim to have their own unique sources, but I didn't see any of them release any articles about the tablet/dock NX design with detachable controllers until Eurogamer talked about it and as I've said in the past Eurogamer aren't a reliable source for this kind of stuff.

Eurogamer knows about analysis, sure they have contacts like any gaming media websites do, but they're still going off of what they're told and such people could be mistaken or be delivering missinformation about NX to keep people talking about the platform for Nintendo and keep people unaware of what it really is.

See reply in bold.

"Uh, I dunno how careful I should be with it..." proves he has hard time explaining whole concept.

So you are saying $100 just for GPU!? How that's proves that is possible to make and sell home console and handheld and sell with profit for $299!? That doesn't prove anything. Fact is that we curetnyl have PS4 Slim for $299 and Vita for $199, thats $499.

Yes it assumed that NX will be more popular right of the gate, beacuse Nintendo will not repeat mojority of Wii U mistakes (and beacuse Wii U was bloody mess), for instance we know that just Zelda BotW like launch title is much stronger than any title Wii U had in whole 1st year, also it very likely that NX is a hybrid, that means that is a aiming handheld and home consoles users in same time. Its very logical if you have console with instal base of 50 m and if you have console with console of 20m to expect that same games will sell better on that console with instal base of 50m, just for record I talking about Wii U and NX, not about NX and PS4 or XB1 for instance.

 

Not exatly, for instance Emily 1st said that NX is not using AMD. Like I wrote, SMD had real source but he losted it very fast, after that he is talking nonsense most of time, he was talking that NX is Polaris based and that will be stronger than PS4, even competing with PS4 Pro, lol.

Fact is that 3DS really had Nvidia based dev kits, so Eurogamer was partially true. But they NX article is confirmed by WSJ, ING, MWC, Emily, Naten Drake and some other sources. Eurogamer could be wrong, but if multiply reliable sources confirm your story and there is nobady that saying that story isnt true (at least not one single realibe insader), than that story is most likely true.